Codependency Is NOT a Control Problem — Critiquing Co-Dependents Anonymous with Chelsey Cole

Codependency Is NOT a Control Problem — Critiquing Co-Dependents Anonymous with Chelsey Cole

From The Self-Love Recovery Podcast by Ross Rosenberg, M. Ed.

March 12, 2026 · 32 min

About this episode

Ross Rosenberg and Chelsey Cole discuss the pitfalls of traditional codependency frameworks and their impact on relationships.

In this eye-opening conversation, Ross Rosenberg is joined by psychotherapist and author Chelsey Cole to explore why traditional codependency frameworks — including Codependency Anonymous — may actually be doing more harm than good. Together they unpack the crucial difference between grandiose and vulnerable narcissists, how childhood experiences with narcissistic parents create the Relationship Template that drives adults straight into toxic partnerships, and why CoDA's Step One amoun...

People in this episode

Host: Ross Rosenberg

Guest: Chelsey Cole

Topics covered

  • codependency
  • narcissism
  • toxic relationships
  • childhood experiences
  • mental health

Keywords

  • codependency
  • narcissism
  • toxic partnerships
  • childhood trauma
  • CoDA

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Codependency Anonymous

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