Dr Kate Lister: Most women could benefit from 'pleasure education'

Dr Kate Lister: Most women could benefit from 'pleasure education'

June 1, 2026 · 1h 3m · Season 21 · Episode 294

About this episode

Dr. Kate Lister discusses the importance of pleasure education for women and the historical context of female sexuality.

My guest this week is a historian columnist television presenter and vocal advocate for better sex for women! I first encountered Dr Kate Lister when I stumbled across her brilliant instagram account @whoresofyore, along with half a million others. In a world where even back in the late 20-teens where we thought the work was, if not done, then at least going in the right direction - laughs hollowly - it was still radical for someone to stand up and say that women demanding better sex didn’t arrive with the 21st century. It has, as Kate has dedicated her life to proving, been a very long fight indeed. Kate is the host of the award winning history podcast Betwixt The Sheets, she writes a weekly column in i-news and has appeared on countless history programmes including House Through Time and Victorian Murder Club with Lucy Worsley. Kate’s brilliant new book Flick - a history of female pleasure - takes us from Mesopotamia to trad wives by way of orgasms, oral sex, masturbation, frigidity, sexual fluidity and much more. It is a 300 page battle cry against the idea that when it comes to sex women want to just ‘lie back and think of England’ Kate joined me to talk about sex as the…

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