About this episode

Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews Nathaniel Gaul and Joscelyn Layman about their experiences in the Top Judge program and their career paths.

In this episode of the Sort podcast, host Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews Nathaniel Gaul (Iowa State University) and Joscelyn Layman (Michigan State University), both participants in the Top Judge program—a transitional initiative helping senior collegiate livestock judges move into professional roles. Nathaniel shares his journey from a northeast Iowa farm to securing a grain merchandising career, while Joscelyn discusses her path toward veterinary school. Both reflect on memorable contest experiences at Louisville and San Antonio, the value of mentorship, and lessons learned through livestock judging. They offer thoughtful advice to aspiring judges about integrity, relationships, and embracing the journey beyond competition.

People in this episode

Host: Dr. Brett Kaysen

Guests: Nathaniel Gaul, Joscelyn Layman

Topics covered

• livestock judging
• mentorship
• career transition
• veterinary school
• collegiate competitions

Keywords

• livestock judging
• mentorship
• career advice
• grain merchandising
• veterinary school

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Iowa State University, Michigan State University

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