You're the Top of the AI Sandwich - with Brian Piper and Matt Wilkinson

You're the Top of the AI Sandwich - with Brian Piper and Matt Wilkinson

June 19, 2026 · 1h 22m

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The episode discusses the importance of discernment in the age of AI and the challenges of AI integration in marketing.

If AI writes a better prompt than you can now, what are you still being paid for? In this episode of The Trending Communicator, host Dan Nestle is joined by two of his closest collaborators, Brian Piper, content and AI integration consultant and co-author of Epic Content Marketing Volume 2, and Dr. Matt Wilkinson, founder of UK agency Strivenn and author of the forthcoming Buyer in the Loop. A month earlier, the three shared a stage at Mark Schaefer's Uprising retreat, building one marketing plan together, each orchestrating their own team of AI helpers to pull it off. Their answer to the question above is discernment. The AI handles the prompting now and most of the drafting. What it can't do is know when an output is wrong, when a claim is weak, when "good enough" isn't. That judgment comes from years of doing the work, and it's the one thing you bring to the machine that the machine can't supply for itself. The same idea runs through everything else they get into: why enterprise AI rollouts keep stalling, why "saving time" never seems to free anyone up, and why the white-collar-apocalypse story makes better clickbait than it does prediction. Listen in and hear about... Why…

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Host: Daniel Nestle

Guests: Brian Piper, Matt Wilkinson

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Organizations: Epic Content Marketing Volume 2, Strivenn

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