#109 Admiral Phil Kenul: What flying into hurricanes taught him about drone regulation

#109 Admiral Phil Kenul: What flying into hurricanes taught him about drone regulation

April 20, 2026 · 52 min · Episode 109

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Admiral Phil Kenul shares insights from his experience flying into hurricanes and his current role in UAS standards.

Admiral Phil Kenul spent decades flying NOAA aircraft into some of the most dangerous weather on earth, including multiple seasons as a P-3 Orion hurricane hunter, before transitioning into the world of UAS standards, where he now serves as Vice Chair of ASTM Committee F38. That path gives him a perspective on unmanned aviation that most people in the industry don't have. He's been the guy in the cockpit, the program manager trying to replace the cockpit with a Global Hawk, and now the person...

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Hosts: Jim Barry, Peter Shannon, Luka Tomljenovic

Guest: Admiral Phil Kenul

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Organizations: NOAA, ASTM Committee F38

Products: P-3 Orion, Global Hawk

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