
Why Certainty Isn’t the Answer: OCD, Intrusive Thoughts & Recovery with Dr. Jon Abramowitz (301)
From Therapist Uncensored Podcast by Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD
June 9, 2026 · 1h 11m · Season 10 · Episode 301
About this episode
Dr. Jon Abramowitz discusses the nature of OCD, intrusive thoughts, and effective recovery strategies.
You can’t think your way out of OCD In part one of our three-part series on Anxiety and OCD, Dr. Jon Abramowitz helps us understand why intrusive thoughts are normal, how OCD turns them into a source of distress, and what keeps the cycle going. We explore uncertainty, reassurance-seeking, relationship dynamics, and the research-backed treatments that help people reclaim their lives from OCD.In this conversation, we unpack the surprising truth about intrusive thoughts, why reassurance often backfires, and how learning to tolerate uncertainty can be a powerful path toward recovery. “There is no such thing as absolute certainty.” – Dr. Jon Abramowitz Time Stamps for Why Certainty Isn’t the Answer: OCD, Intrusive Thoughts & Recovery with Dr. Jon Abramowitz (301) 02:40 Understanding anxiety and its disorders 05:46 Distinguishing normal anxiety from OCD 08:21 The nature of obsessional thoughts 14:09 The cycle of OCD and compulsions 16:53 The role of exposure and response prevention 19:44 Understanding scrupulosity in OCD 25:25 Treatment approaches for OCD 33:34 Managing distress in OCD therapy 36:55 Understanding control and uncertainty in OCD 40:41…
People in this episode
Hosts: Sue Marriott LCSW, Ann Kelley PhD
Guest: Dr. Jon Abramowitz
Topics covered
- OCD
- intrusive thoughts
- anxiety
- treatment
- uncertainty
- recovery
Keywords
- OCD
- intrusive thoughts
- anxiety
- treatment
- uncertainty
- recovery
- exposure therapy
- compulsions
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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