Show me the money! The DSR Bank

About this episode

The episode discusses the financial challenges faced by defense companies and the potential impact of the DSR Bank on funding military infrastructure in Europe.

How do defence companies fund growth when the orders from politicians have been promised but the cash isn't forthcoming? Want to build a new factory to double Europe's 155mm ammo production, or tank fleet, or - heavens forbid - drones? Great - but where does the money come from for the infrastructure? Why don't existing MFIs across Europe fill that space? And what might a dedicated defence, security, and resilience offer governments as well as industry? Former Brigadier General Robbie Boyd, now on the Senior Leadership team for the development of the new DSR Bank, explains all. This episode allows those in the national security community who don't have a deep understanding of the financial sector to understand the potential offered by a dedicated banking organisation for defence. Building off the ideas of a NATO bank, and linked directly to the rebuilding of NATO's failed deterrence posture, the DSR bank feels a bit like a game-changer.

People in this episode

Host: Peter Roberts

Guest: Robbie Boyd

Topics covered

• defense funding
• military infrastructure
• banking for defense
• NATO
• national security
• defense industry

Keywords

• defense companies
• funding
• military factories
• 155mm ammo
• tank fleet
• drones
• financial sector
• NATO bank
• deterrence posture

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: DSR Bank, NATO

Places: Europe

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