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The episode revisits a conversation with Nathan Zieber about the intersection of Christianity and paranormal investigations.
Every once in a while, we revisit an older conversation and realize that it may be even more relevant today than when we first recorded it. That is exactly how I feel about this episode with Nathan Zieber, a pastor, former private investigator, and former investigator with MUFON Canada. Nathan has been called the “Paranormal Pastor” because of his willingness to enter communities that many Christians either fear, dismiss, or simply do not understand. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Rewinding a Conversation That Still Matters 02:00 How MUFON Investigates UFO Reports 05:00 From Bible School to Paranormal Investigation 08:00 Christians in Supernatural and Justice Communities 10:00 Why the Church Avoids Paranormal Conversations 11:00 Are Aliens Extraterrestrial or Interdimensional? 14:00 Developing a Heart for People on the Fringe 16:00 When UFO Culture Becomes a Religion 17:00 UFO Disclosure, UAPs, and Possible Smokescreens 21:00 Using UFO Conversations to Open Gospel Doors 24:00 Salvations Within the Paranormal Community 26:00 Why Spiritually Curious People Need Compassion 29:00 Discipleship, Patience, and Messy Transformation 31:00 UFOs, Eschatology, and the Last Days 33:00 CE5, Summoning UFOs…
Hosts: Brandon Spain, Lindsy Waters
Guest: Nathan Zieber
Organizations: MUFON Canada
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