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https://join.unrefinedpodcast.comWhat if your family patterns, addictions, fears, and trauma are not the final word? In this episode, Brandon and team talk with Dr. Luman Wing about epigenetics, transgenerational sin, addiction, sanctification, and how the gospel may reach even deeper into our embodied lives than most Christians have imagined.https://amzn.to/3QR8z3H- Dr. Lu's bookhttps://lumanwing.org/Timestamps:01:00 Introducing Dr. Luman Wing and Genes of Eden03:00 Lu’s encounter with the Jesus Movement and Lonnie Frisbee05:00 Science, design, and Dean Kenyon’s classroom moment07:00 Blood, biochemistry, biotechnology, and gene therapy08:00 How theology and epigenetics came together09:00 Epigenetics explained in plain English12:00 Stress, fear, habits, prayer, and gene expression13:00 Augustine, Pelagianism, and inherited sin15:00 Adam, shame, fear, and the transgenerational imprint17:00 Transformation, neuroplasticity, and becoming new creatures19:00 Addiction, dopamine, anticipation, and “holy wanting”21:00 Why Leviticus may be more scientific than we think23:00 The peace offering, adrenal glands, stress, and surrender25:00 Heart, mind, soul, brain, and the emotional response27:00 The amygdala, hippocampus, and prefrontal cortex31:00 Traducianism, the soul, and inherited human brokenness34:00 Junk DNA, non-coding RNA, and the mystery of the soul36:00 Being born again and the mystery of redemption39:00 Does salvation change us epigenetically?41:00 Romans 7, Romans 8, and progressive sanctification44:00 The worm, the butterfly, and imaginal cells46:00 Trauma, PTSD, the amygdala, and getting stuck in loops48:00 Reason, revelation, Scripture, and renewing the mind50:00 Stillness with God as a real mental workout53:00 Exercise, swimming, bilateral movement, and healing patterns54:00 Generational curses, inherited patterns, and epigenetics55:00 Holocaust trauma and transgenerational imprinting58:00 Forgiveness as a powerful interruptor of inherited trauma01:00:00 Addiction, family patterns, and why DNA is not destiny01:03:00 Trauma in family history and what may carry forward01:05:00 Why there is no single “alcoholism gene”01:07:00 Practically learning stillness, peace, and emotional regulation01:09:00 Why Christian fellowship matters biologically and spiritually01:10:00 Identity, becoming, and Dr. Wing’s next book01:12:00 Potential, formation, consolidation, and identity01:16:00 Leviticus, burnt offerings, and absolute surrender01:18:00 Why science “screams” the glory of God01:19:00 Lu’s personal testimony of trauma and God’s intervention01:21:00 Hope for believers stuck in family patterns

In this episode, we go beyond surface-level healing and step into the deeper mechanics of how the body, mind, and spirit actually work together. This isn’t about chasing trends or adopting buzzwords—it’s about understanding design.We unpack how trauma is stored, why subconscious beliefs shape your reality, and what it really means to come back into alignment with how God created you to function. From quantum principles and nervous system regulation to identity, sonship, and the power of belief—this conversation challenges the idea that we’re broken and replaces it with something far more dangerous:That we’ve simply been out of alignment. If you’ve ever wondered why healing feels inconsistent, why certain struggles won’t go away, or why your prayers sometimes feel blocked… this one will hit different. And it might just change how you see everything. Grab info about IBRTTimestamps:00:00:04 Anxiety fear and why you cannot pray effectively in fear00:00:28 Unrefined intro and sponsor call to action00:00:51 Why this conversation goes deeper than surface level healing00:03:08 The subconscious as the missing piece in healing00:05:26 God did not design us broken00:07:40 Alignment vs brokenness framework explained00:10:07 Science and theology working together00:12:31 Allopathic medicine vs natural healing tension00:14:51 Subconscious beliefs and frequency explained00:17:14 Why fear and shame keep people stuck00:19:42 Sonship identity and authority over the earth00:21:59 Real example of hidden beliefs affecting life00:24:25 Reclaiming what the enemy has distorted00:26:48 Misuse vs proper use of spiritual principles00:29:08 Energy modalities and alignment with the practitioner00:31:28 Bless baptize or burn framework00:33:44 What muscle testing actually measures00:36:06 How the subconscious stores memory and trauma00:40:56 Nutrition and body response through energy00:43:18 Truth vs lie responses in the body00:45:42 Quantum communication and spiritual discernment00:48:05 Real case study of spiritual root cause healing00:52:53 Why the body lacks energy to heal00:55:16 Healing is not linear process00:59:59 Conviction vs condemnation in healing01:02:21 Vision boards intention and alignment01:07:01 God giving desires vs performance mindset01:11:39 Poverty mindset vs abundance01:14:06 Vision and belief shaping reality01:18:59 Sonship vs new age identity01:21:03 Biggest lie about healing01:23:24 Forgiveness beyond words01:25:52 Nervous system and triggers01:29:45 Self sabotage and success blocks01:33:46 Limiting beliefs and fear of influence01:36:13 Double binds explained01:41:02 Personal story of root belief formation01:43:24 Final thoughts on IBRT and healing tools01:45:38 How to connect and learn more

There is a growing conversation happening around trauma, mental health, spiritual warfare, and the unseen realm and this episode steps right into it. Brandon and the Unrefined crew sit down with Dr. Natalie Atwell to explore what happens when human struggle is treated only through a clinical lens and the spiritual dimension is ignored. Dr. Atwell shares from her work as a clinical mental health therapist, educator, and researcher, explaining why some issues that present as mental health struggles may also carry deeper spiritual roots.This conversation covers trauma, epigenetics, attachment, generational patterns, personality disorders, suicide, dissociation, Freemasonry, occult influence, deliverance, inner healing, brain science, and the divine council worldview. Rather than reducing everything to demons or dismissing the supernatural entirely, this episode presses into a more integrated biblical framework for healing and freedom.If you’ve wrestled with depression, spiritual oppression, church trauma, counseling, or the question of how the unseen realm intersects with real life, this episode gives language to a conversation many people have felt but never knew how to articulate.https://mentalwarriorconsulting.com/Timestamps:00:00:07 There are spiritual beings out there who have influenced us negatively00:00:51 Intro to mental health spiritual formation and the unseen realm00:03:10 Dr Natalie Atwell shares her background in counseling and Liberty University00:05:30 When clinical explanations stopped being enough00:07:46 Why some mental health struggles may have spiritual roots00:09:50 The cost of ignoring the unseen realm in modern mental health00:12:01 Why spiritual darkness questions rarely get asked in therapy00:14:23 Trauma early experiences and the imprint they leave00:16:48 The Body Keeps the Score trauma and generational patterns00:19:03 Epigenetics faith and healing00:21:11 Why spirituality alone is not enough if darkness is ignored00:23:20 Suicide spiritual oppression and going to war with the lie00:25:38 How skeptical therapists respond to this framework00:27:44 A case study involving dissociation and Freemasonry00:29:48 Personal testimony of darkness depression and survival00:32:03 Layered healing trauma choices and demonic influence00:34:04 Fraternal orders sororities and hidden influence00:36:28 The gray areas and asking better questions00:38:50 The Holy Spirit and discernment in counseling00:41:14 Why the divine council worldview matters for real people00:43:24 Why children may be targeted and the value they carry00:45:48 Assessing darkness without blaming everything on demons00:47:57 Narcissism pride attachment disorder and Babel00:50:16 How to distinguish trauma from spiritual oppression00:53:03 Finished work inner healing and the long road of restoration00:57:39 Renewing the mind after deliverance and healing00:59:35 Community attachment and why the church must show up01:01:55 What Christian mental health care could look like in five years01:04:08 SRA alien abduction language and believing people’s stories01:06:33 How pastors should respond to strange or disturbing testimonies01:08:56 House of David giants and the supernatural worldview of scripture01:11:02 Preparing the church for stranger days ahead01:12:35 Final encouragement greater is He who is in you

https://join.unrefinedpodcast.comBrandon, Lindsy and the Unrefined crew sit down with Jason Spears and Christopher Dean of Operation Red Pill to map the “satanic control matrix”—a framework for how culture, media, education, and systems of power shape the way people think, feel, and live. They unpack brainwashing stages (desensitization, jamming, conversion), symbolism in entertainment, and practical ways to unplug without living in paranoia. AND MORE. https://orppodcast.com/Timestamps:00:00:50 Brandon introduces the crew and Operation Red Pill00:03:05 The satanic control matrix begins how they got into this00:05:28 The origin story starts and the flood question at work00:07:46 Hidden messaging and the MCU breakdown concept00:09:54 When the satanic control matrix language formed00:12:10 The theology argument and why Christopher saw room to grow00:14:39 Starbucks moment the framework starts getting written00:17:03 Definition of the satanic control matrix and the cosmic chessboard00:19:24 Why this framework helps connect the big narrative00:21:43 Desensitization explained and exposure changes responses00:24:03 Noticing language and content shifts over time00:26:24 Jamming social pressure labeling and coercion00:28:44 Conversion narratives and the AI programming example00:31:08 Everything becomes weaponized in culture against people00:33:31 Top Gun symbolism moment and nothing feels safe00:35:58 How to use this information without losing hope00:38:15 Overload distraction and why people cannot think clearly00:40:42 Reticular activating system and cognitive rigidity00:43:07 Community sanity and changing your relationship with tech00:45:29 Quiet time and the mind of Christ in a noisy age00:47:50 Practical steps disrupting screens and stimulation00:50:17 Why Jesus took quiet and why that matters00:52:35 How to stay sane and conspiracy fatigue00:53:06 Practical unplugging tips lights on subtitles pause mid movie00:55:30 Brainwave shift and why screens lower resistance00:57:48 Ammo stacking and staying on Team Jesus01:00:10 Entertainment etymology enter and detain01:02:37 Dionysus Bacchus and possession themes01:05:01 Syncretism and the path toward a universal system01:07:03 Method acting channeling examples and spiritual access01:09:30 Movies music sports and games as spiritual liturgy01:11:52 Video games occult themes and cultural conditioning01:14:14 Net industrial complex and subconscious programming01:16:36 The three control goals individual social global01:18:53 Education as individual control protocol01:21:18 Social control through industries and systems01:23:39 Telecommunications and reversing Babel effects01:26:04 Operation Paperclip and occult tech transfer themes01:28:30 Global control pillars geopolitics finance religion01:30:55 Brandon reacts framework clarity and big picture value

Misery has a way of forcing honest questions.In this episode, Brandon sits down with Jennifer Johnson who has spent decades helping people move beyond information about God and into real, embodied transformation. This conversation explores heart physics, biblical meditation, imagination, and why so many believers know Scripture—but can’t seem to live free.What happens when the Word moves from the mind into the heart? What if healing isn’t about trying harder, fixing yourself, or perfect behavior—but learning to trust again?This episode unpacks why religious systems often fear inner freedom, how imagination was designed to work, and why your response to pain determines the outcome of your story. The conversation culminates in a live guided biblical meditation that invites listeners into direct awareness of Christ within.This is not self-help. This is not technique-driven spirituality. This is an invitation to closeness.https://paperbell.me/jenniferjohnson-coachhttps://joinapp.unrefinedpodcast.comTimestamps:00:00:51 Introducing heart physics and biblical meditation00:03:02 Growing up Christian and discovering something was missing00:05:24 How How to Stop the Pain reframed suffering00:07:45 Heart physics and the parable of the sower00:12:23 Why information alone never produces fruit00:16:52 Meditation, imagination, and reclaiming what religion feared00:21:37 Sanctified imagination versus misuse00:28:43 Christ in you awareness not self-fixing00:30:59 The moment Jesus said “I chose you”00:33:10 Why experience changes everything00:34:47 Guided biblical meditation begins00:41:56 Trusting Jesus as an invitation not a demand00:45:06 Final reflection and closing

Hey, hey, hey—today isn’t a reaction piece. It’s a response. Not a theological sparring match, not a pile-on, not a “pick your side” moment. We’re talking about what sits underneath public failure in the church—power, gifting, trauma, accountability, integrity, and the systems that shape leaders long before anything goes public. If we want real healing, we’ve got to stop playing whack-a-mole with personalities and start asking better questions about formation, cover-up culture, and what restoration actually requires.Join Unrefined Life GroupsJoin Unrefined Apphttps://drrobinbraun.comTimestamps:00:02:42 Examining our own hearts before critiquing others 00:05:01 No one agrees 100 percent with anyone’s theology and why that matters 00:07:15 Prophetic etiquette and why words must be weighed 00:09:33 Stage culture money ego and the illusion of total accuracy 00:11:52 Why these moments expose systems more than individuals 00:14:08 Upside down ministry model gifting elevated over healing 00:16:31 Judging behavior vs assigning intention and the iceberg metaphor 00:18:46 Four levels of consciousness and why triggers persist 00:20:56 Brandon re-evaluates assumptions and contrasts correction styles 00:23:16 Freemasonry generational doors and cover-up culture claims 00:25:41 Character over gifting and why relational community reveals fruit 00:28:04 What repentance could look like for replatforming 00:30:22 Predatory patterns and why some behaviors disqualify platform trust 00:32:37 Organic church family units vs celebrity models 00:34:53 Board failure power dynamics and why exposure happens externally 00:37:14 Sanctification put off vs put on and formation practices 00:39:30 Sonship identity performance and anointing as identity substitute 00:41:50 Why psychics can seem more accurate and the issue of mixture 00:44:14 Occult mimicry counterfeit spiritual experiences and discernment 00:46:37 Dissociation explained trauma survival compartmentalization 00:48:53 Epigenetics cellular memory and generational impact language 00:51:17 Accountability after 18 and responsibility for healing 00:53:38 Freemasonry vow logic and Matthew 18 discipline arc 00:55:52 Integrity as wholeness and why truth is the safer path 00:58:12 Jezebel Leviathan Python framework and confusion dynamics 01:00:35 Witchcraft manipulation twisting intimidation and board dynamics 01:03:00 501c3 alignment claims and spiritual entanglement discussion 01:05:23 Symbolism foundations and why “systems” matter spiritually 01:07:39 Chris Vallotton fallout logic and outcome based ethics 01:10:02 Tree of life vs knowledge of good and evil applied 01:12:25 Why integrity heals subconscious double binds and rumination 01:14:47 Peace joy homeostasis and alignment as nervous system reality 01:17:02 Frequency language and predators targeting low states 01:19:25 Learning prophetic safely practice confirmation and community 01:21:30 Locker room vs field practicing gifts in real life 01:23:40 Gift of prophecy vs office of prophet relational difference 01:26:02 Prophecy as potentiality and confirmation over control 01:28:14 Finding triggers and why guided help matters 01:30:36 Discerning supernatural favor fruit peace alignment and closed doors 01:33:00 Enchanted world discernment food offered to idols analogy 01:35:05 Blessing food and spiritual defilement stories 01:37:24 ULGs what they are and how they work 01:39:45 Identity in Christ healing projections and father lens 01:42:07 Closing encouragement don’t throw the baby out

Most believers know they’re forgiven… but still live like they’re on probation. In this conversation, we unpack what changes when holiness flows out of who you already are in Christ instead of who you’re trying to become. We get practical about the “striving trap,” mixed-covenant theology, abiding without making it another performance, and why the heart is the real battleground where belief becomes fruit. Plus, a closing prayer and a timely word for Brandon about finishing what God put in his hands.https://Forward.churchhttps://clintbyars.comTimestamps:00:00:48 Holiness flowing from identity not striving00:03:05 Identity as the starting point for behavior00:05:29 New creation reality and “who you are in spirit”00:09:57 Ontological shift what kind of being are you now00:14:45 Mind renewal living within what you already have00:17:07 Abiding as response to Him abiding in us00:21:43 Why negative self-beliefs feel “humble” in church culture00:24:02 Mixed covenant confusion and reframing Jesus’ teachings00:33:03 No dusty corners seated with Him as true humility00:37:59 Heart in Scripture why it matters so much00:40:23 Parable of the sower heart soil Word seed Kingdom fruit00:45:09 Quantum imagery observation faith and manifestation00:52:08 Practical rest and business goals identity shapes decisions00:59:27 Intention dominion and the dangers of going “law of attraction”01:08:48 Recommended practice using 52 Things Jesus Did for You01:13:27 Repentance as mind change not groveling confession01:15:38 Closing prayer to yield and trust01:17:54 Prophetic encouragement to finish the book

Sometimes growth in our faith feels less like a ladder and more like getting lost on a trail you thought you already mapped. In this conversation, Brandon is joined in-studio by Jen Parks and Lindsy Waters, and they bring back Dr. Robin Braun to talk about why believers get stuck, why online “metabrawls” keep brawling, and what actually changes when God matures us beyond rule-keeping into relationship.Robin breaks down a stages-of-faith framework (drawing from James Fowler and a Christian translation of it) and connects it to what she sees in inner healing work: people who say they trust God, but carry subconscious beliefs that God is angry, punitive, or performance-based. The crew digs into deconstruction, limiting beliefs, church hurt, and why many walk away when their faith was built more on systems than on a living relationship.It gets personal too. Robin shares parts of her own story, the cost of hard seasons, and how “nothing is wasted” becomes real on the other side. The thread running through the whole episode is simple but not shallow: when love becomes the aim, the room changes.https://drrobinbraun.comhttps://integratedlifestrategies.comclick for link to book-Living Like a Son Book -https://amzn.to/4pZMLyZclick for link to book - Thrive -https://amzn.to/4aGDYNNMissions Robin mentioned- https://www.thriveholistichealingministries.com/get-involvedTimestamps:00:00:51 Topic stages of maturity and introduce Dr. Robin Braun00:03:14 Brandon frames the “maturity crisis” as more than doctrine00:05:37 Robin connects stages of faith to deprogramming beliefs and father wounds00:07:56 Robin’s background and early foundation God as a loving Father00:10:13 Early supernatural encounters and pursuing theology from intimacy00:12:35 Realizing theological ambiguity and why it forces relationship00:14:56 Why some deconstruct and don’t come back relationship vs rule system00:17:14 Jen asks for a clear framework of the stages00:19:25 Stages two and three described tribe shifts and conflict00:21:37 Stage four deconstruction and moving toward love00:24:01 Holding beliefs loosely and dignity to disagree00:26:20 Can people shift stages across seasons and areas of life00:28:46 Practical wisdom don’t respond online in heightened emotion00:30:50 Brandon shares his own rock bottom deconstruction story00:32:50 Jen’s puzzle piece analogy for faith and fringe experiences00:35:11 Limiting beliefs ant and spider circle illustration00:37:28 Robin’s four stages of healing framework00:39:39 Brandon on both and not either or and navigating gray00:42:04 Rewriting history theology shifts and removal of miracle accounts00:44:31 Rick Warren example and fallout of doctrinal dogmatism00:46:52 Bill Gothard and patriarchy damage performance culture00:49:08 What changes when disagreements don’t transform anyone00:51:33 How hyper performance creates self hatred and fear00:53:48 Robin shares marriage story boundaries release and recompense00:56:12 Nothing is wasted redemption and compassion formed through suffering00:58:32 Brandon on mystery sacramental worldview and trust01:00:43 Heart mind alignment trust vs belief and inner wiring01:03:03 Porto illustration and carrying beliefs into the heart01:05:28 Encouragement for listeners faith shifting as growth not loss01:07:51 Practical next steps find guides get healing rebuild relationship01:10:15 Robin shares websites training and nonprofit support work01:12:29 Where to start drrobinbraun.com vs integratedlifestrategies.com01:14:48 Taking back tools mislabeling everything as new age01:17:10 Robin prays over listeners and the church