Stop Proving Yourself: The Freedom of Being Fully You | Dr. Liz DuBois Erskine

Stop Proving Yourself: The Freedom of Being Fully You | Dr. Liz DuBois Erskine

July 16, 2026 · 33 min · Season 5 · Episode 230

About this episode

In this episode, Joni Caldwell Lerner discusses the importance of authenticity in leadership with Dr. Liz DuBois Erskine, addressing issues like imposter syndrome and perfectionism.

Have you ever wondered if everyone else got the handbook for life except you? Even the most successful leaders often struggle with self-doubt, perfectionism, people-pleasing, and the nagging fear that someone will discover they're not as capable as they appear. In this powerful conversation, I sit down with executive coach and conflict analyst Dr. Liz DuBois Erskine to explore why so many high performers feel like imposters—and why the answer isn't becoming more qualified. It's becoming more authentic. Together we explore: • Why imposter syndrome isn't a sign you're failing • The hidden relationship between perfectionism and safety • How our childhood stories become the "belief containers" that shape our lives • Why feelings are not facts • The surprising connection between conflict, trauma, and leadership • How to stop seeking validation and start trusting yourself • What it really means to be "all of yourself, all of the time" If you've ever felt like you needed to earn your worth, prove yourself, or become someone else before living the life you're called to live, this conversation is for you. Dr. Liz reminds us that authentic leadership begins the moment we stop making life…

People in this episode

Host: Joni Caldwell Lerner

Guest: Dr. Liz DuBois Erskine

Topics covered

Keywords

More episodes of WAKE UP! with Joni

Explore listener stats, chart rankings, contacts and more on the WAKE UP! with Joni podcast page.