
Holly and Jim discuss the complexities of food labeling and eating choices with Tamar Haspel, exploring the impact of marketing on our diets.
For 40 years, every time nutrition has found a new villain, the food industry has handed us a new label to go with it: non-fat, no GMOs, gluten-free, no seed oils, and now, non-ultra-processed. We have more experts, more studies, and more food rules than ever before, so why does standing in the grocery aisle still feel like such a guessing game? Join Holly and Jim as they sit down with Tamar Haspel, the James Beard Award-winning Washington Post columnist behind Unearthed and author of To Boldly Grow , to pull apart the ultra-processed food debate and ask whether today's labels are actually helping us eat better or just making us easier to market to. Tamar doesn't just write about food from behind a desk: she gardens, fishes, raises chickens, and runs an oyster farm on Cape Cod, and she brings three decades of reporting, real skepticism, and zero patience for diet cranks to the conversation. You'll hear why the food world keeps repeating the same mistake, what a cage full of B.F. Skinner's pigeons can teach us about our relationship with food, and what's really driving overeating once you strip away the marketing. Discussed on the episode: The decades-old pattern that explains why…
Hosts: Holly Wyatt, James Hill
Guest: Tamar Haspel
Organizations: Washington Post
Books & works: To Boldly Grow, Unearthed
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