The Making of the 2025 Dietary Guidelines and What They Mean for You with Christopher Gardner
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The episode discusses the making of the 2025 Dietary Guidelines and the controversies surrounding them with Dr. Christopher Gardner.
Every five years, the U.S. government releases dietary guidelines that shape what gets served in school cafeterias, what doctors recommend to patients, and what ends up on your plate. But what actually happens behind the scenes, and who really gets the final say? If you've ever felt confused about protein, carbs, red meat, or dairy, you're not alone. The latest 2025–2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans arrived with controversy baked in, with final recommendations that diverged from what the scientific advisory committee actually concluded after two years of rigorous, volunteer-driven research. The result? A lot of frustrated scientists and the public left sorting through mixed messages. Join Holly and Jim as they sit down with Dr. Christopher Gardner, Professor of Medicine at Stanford University and Director of Nutrition Studies at the Stanford Prevention Research Center. Dr. Gardner served on the 2025 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, giving him a front-row seat to both the science and the politics of how America's nutrition advice gets made. His research has shaped how we think about plant-based eating, diet quality, and what actually works for weight management in the…
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