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Dara Simkin and Tâne Hunter discuss the systemic issues of burnout and the importance of play in the workplace.

We welcome Full Stack Human co-authors, Dara Simkin and Tané Hunter to speak about why growing burnout and overwhelm are systems problems, not personal resilience failures. They explain how Stone Age brains are overloaded by Godlike tech - constant notifications, meetings and targeted media - keeping people in fight-or-flight and reducing creativity and judgment. Dara argues that optimisation and “achievement syndrome” add pressure, while play is a biologically grounded mindset that supports connection, curiosity and sustainable performance. They share ways leaders can integrate play through permission, mental and physical space and simple prompts, plus “yes, and” communication to build psychological safety. Looking ahead, they emphasise protecting human capacity and leaning into uniquely human creativity and agency as AI expands. ~ 00:26 Burnout Is a Systems Issue 01:51 Why Work Feels Weird 03:45 Play as a Mindset 08:18 Stone Age Brains at Work 11:56 Achievement Syndrome and Hacking 14:07 Micro Moments of Play 18:05 Wobbling the Jelly 20:50 How Leaders Enable Play 24:37 Yes And Leadership 29:58 Future of Work Is Human~ Resources Website…

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