#137 - Beyond Fear: Regaining the Passion of The Explorer in our Organizations - with John Hagel

#137 - Beyond Fear: Regaining the Passion of The Explorer in our Organizations - with John Hagel

March 16, 2026 · 44 min · Season 7 · Episode 137

About this episode

John Hagel discusses the importance of overcoming fear and fostering a culture of exploration in organizations.

A world-renowned strategist and author, one of the pioneers of platform thinking, John Hagel, joins us on this episode. He starts the episode by sharing something profound: “I was taught to believe strategy is everything for winning. Over the years, I’ve come to realise it’s less about strategy and more about psychology.” He also discusses how fear currently largely shapes decision-making, and why regaining the “passion of the explorer” is fundamental in this time of change, as new forms of value creation are needed. He talks about approaches such as the Zoom In/Zoom Out and scaling the edge, which can help organisations navigate uncertainty. If you feel the urge to go beyond fear and create sustainable and empowering creation spaces, tune in. John is the author of several influential books, including the seminal “The Power of Pull” and “The Journey Beyond Fear”. He has always reflected on how organisations can navigate an era defined by accelerating technological change. Throughout the conversation, we explore why the future of work depends less on tightly specified tasks and more on cultivating environments where curiosity, experimentation, and the “human” element of work…

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