Friendly Fire with Brian and Judson, in which they talk hooking up on a family cruise, sex for the sake of the story, the treatment of women by gay men, and how deep the friendship with a friend-with-benefits should be

Friendly Fire with Brian and Judson, in which they talk hooking up on a family cruise, sex for the sake of the story, the treatment of women by gay men, and how deep the friendship with a friend-with-benefits should be

March 3, 2026 · 1h 12m · Season 2 · Episode 40

About this episode

Brian and Judson discuss their recent travels, hookup experiences, and the dynamics of friendships within open relationships.

Our Dad and Daddy reunite after Judson’s week in San Francisco for work and Brian’s Disney Cruise in the Caribbean with his family, and they each provide a full report on their travels, including the hookup activity that happened for one and not the other. Judson sees “Pillion” a second time and takes his husband to see it for his first. Brian suggests that listeners read John Paul Brammer’s book, “Hola Papi: How to Come Out in a Wal-Mart Parking Lot and Other Life Lessons” in advance of his appearance on the podcast in the coming weeks. The Hookup of the Week comes from a repeat submitter who again takes us to a public cruising spot in Australia. Judson raises some thoughts and concerns that have been on his mind about the way gay men treat women. The two end the episode responding to a Go Ask Your Dad question from a listener curious about how friendships with the people we hook up with work inside an open relationship.

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Hosts: Brian Rubin-Sowers, Judson Morrow

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Books & works: Hola Papi: How to Come Out in a Wal-Mart Parking Lot and Other Life Lessons

Places: San Francisco, Caribbean, Australia

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