
Ep 185. Is Ukraine Winning? And how has the Iran war reshaped the Middle East? With David Tafuri
From Disorder by Jason Pack & Evergreen Podcasts
May 26, 2026 · 52 min
About this episode
Jason Pack and David Tafuri discuss the interconnected crises in Ukraine and the Middle East, exploring US foreign policy and the impact of misinformation.
The crises across our disordered world are more interconnected than ever. As states pursue their own self-interest, genuine collective action for mutual shared benefit seems further away than ever before. How can we ever hope to Order this Disorder? To try, Jason is joined this week by his old friend David Tafuri. David previously served as the US Department of State’s Rule of Law Coordinator for Iraq, was an outside foreign policy advisor to President Obama’s campaign in 2008, has worked for the United Nations in Turkey, and is the founder and current President of the US-Kurdistan Business Council. The pair start with the latest in Ukraine--following up on David’s recent visit there. Then they embark on a whistle stop tour of the Middle East, exploring the latest in Iraq, Syria, Israel, and Lebanon. And… as they Order the Disorder, the discuss the situation in the Gulf, how the Gulfis and European Allies could help open Hormuz, the need to tackle misinformation, and why the Trump admin needs to put aside its destructive unilateralism and work more closely with traditional American allies on Ukraine and the Iran war. To join our Mega Orderers Club for ad free listening, early…
People in this episode
Host: Jason Pack
Guest: David Tafuri
Topics covered
- Ukraine conflict
- Middle East politics
- Iran war
- US foreign policy
- Misinformation
- International relations
Keywords
- Ukraine
- Iran
- Middle East
- foreign policy
- misinformation
- Trump administration
- Gulf
- Iraq
- Syria
- Lebanon
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: US Department of State, United Nations, US-Kurdistan Business Council
Places: Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Israel, Lebanon, Gulf, Hormuz
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