
Data Debrief: Speed of ROI, The AI Land Grab & Are We Thinking Less?
From Driven by Data: The Podcast by Orbition Group
April 9, 2026 · 33 min · Season 7 · Episode 1
About this episode
In this debut episode of Data Debrief, hosts Kyle and Catherine discuss key themes from their conversation with Kevin Cassar, focusing on the evolving landscape of data and AI.
Welcome to the very first episode of Data Debrief, the companion show to Driven By Data: The Podcast, where hosts Kyle Winterbottom and Catherine Dowden-King sit down every Thursday to unpack Tuesday's episode, share what's been on their minds, and discuss what's really happening across the data and AI market. In this debut episode, Kyle and Catherine reflect on Tuesday's conversation with Kevin Cassar , diving deeper into the themes that sparked the most discussion, and a few that didn't make it into the main episode. They cover: Why the data conversation is shifting from delivering ROI to accelerating it, and what that means for data leaders still stuck in output-factory mode The growing pressure on organisations to be seen doing AI, regardless of whether it's actually delivering value, and why the optics of inaction are now costlier than wasting budget The internal land grab between CDOs and CIOs over who owns AI, and why the answer is often more cultural than technical Why rolling out enterprise ChatGPT to an entire bank doesn't necessarily mean your organisation is embracing AI Kevin's people-first philosophy, and why understanding where your team actually sits on the AI…
People in this episode
Hosts: Kyle Winterbottom, Catherine Dowden-King
Guest: Kevin Cassar
Topics covered
- ROI acceleration
- AI adoption
- data leadership
- CIO vs CDO
- enterprise AI
- data professional roles
- optimizing strategies
Keywords
- data
- AI
- ROI
- CIO
- CDO
- enterprise
- adoption
- strategy
- optimizing
- leadership
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Driven By Data, AI
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