Bonus: Grace for the Weird-Ass Brain: “The Bloggess” Jenny Lawson on How to Be Okay When Nothing Is Okay
From For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast by Jen Hatmaker
April 3, 2026 · 1h 8m
About this episode
Jen and Jenny Lawson discuss how to cope with mental health challenges and the importance of self-acceptance.
Description:What does it mean to be okay when nothing is okay? Not fixed. Not optimized. Not cured. Just… okay. This week, Jen and Amy sit down with bestselling author and professional weirdo Jenny Lawson to talk about surviving — and sometimes even thriving — inside a brain that does not always cooperate. Jenny’s new book, How to Be Okay When Nothing Is Okay, is a field guide for tender humans: a collection of tiny tools for when the big solutions feel impossible. Today, we talk about: Living with “tiny erratic squirrels” in your head Why imposter syndrome gets louder with success Learning to live within your real capacity Why you’re not failing if it’s just not for you Helpful tools like “weird walks”, “body doubling”, “writing Zooms”, The radical courage of simply staying This conversation explores what happens when we stop trying to override our nervous systems and start listening to them instead. Midlife has a way of stripping away illusion — about productivity, about comparison, about who we’re supposed to be. Jenny reminds us that sometimes grit looks like finishing the book. And sometimes it looks like taking a drink of water and calling it enough. If you are exhausted…
People in this episode
Host: Jen Hatmaker
Guest: Jenny Lawson
Topics covered
- mental health
- self-acceptance
- imposter syndrome
- midlife challenges
- coping strategies
Keywords
- mental health
- self-help
- imposter syndrome
- coping strategies
- midlife
- productivity
- anxiety
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: How to Be Okay When Nothing Is Okay
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