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Keith Jones discusses the restructuring of GTM systems at OpenAI and shares insights on hiring and operational challenges.

What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Keith Jones, Head of GTM Systems at OpenAI. Summary : Keith's GTM systems team at OpenAI got split across 2 orgs, ran into the most wildly practical cost center problem imaginable, and ended up proving exactly why distributed systems teams at high-velocity companies don't work. In this episode, he walks through the full restructuring journey, explains why "be close to the money" now means be close to the budget rather than the revenue motion, and breaks down Symphony and harness engineering — the open-source agentic code orchestration tools his team built to ship production-ready GTM changes without going to the nth degree of "write this Apex class." He also has a filter for separating human candidates from AI-generated applications that is simple, specific, and immediately usable. If you run a GTM systems team, build one, or just want to understand what operating at 10x growth actually requires, this one is worth your time. About Keith Jones Keith Jones is the Head of GTM Systems at OpenAI, where he leads the team responsible for the tools, platforms, and technical infrastructure behind the company's…

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