About this episode

Matthew Leonard discusses the importance of prayer and practical steps for spiritual growth in Catholic life.

"Without a life of prayer, you are really not living as a Catholic" - Matt Leonard Summary What does it really mean to "go deeper" in prayer? And what if you pray every day but don't feel anything? This week we're joined by Matthew Leonard, founder of The Science of Sainthood, to talk about what real spiritual growth looks like. We break down the three modes of prayer, vocal, meditation, and contemplation, and how they form a path to holiness. Matthew shares practical steps for building a daily habit of mental prayer, handling distractions, and creating space for silence. We also talk about how married couples can grow spiritually together without pressure or guilt. If you've ever wondered whether you're making progress in your prayer life, this conversation will give you clarity, encouragement, and a clear next step. Key Takeaways Prayer is essential, not optional. Without prayer, we're not really living the fullness of Catholic life. A relationship with the Lord isn't an add-on. It's fundamental. There's a path to deeper prayer. Vocal prayer, meditation, and contemplation build on each other. Vocal prayer engages body and soul. Meditation is daily mental prayer and real…

People in this episode

Hosts: Mike Hernon, Alicia Hernon

Guest: Matt Leonard

Topics covered

• prayer
• spiritual growth
• Catholic life
• mental prayer
• marriage
• contemplation

Keywords

• prayer
• Catholic
• spiritual growth
• vocal prayer
• meditation
• contemplation
• distractions
• marriage

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: The Science of Sainthood

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