
DSP 135. The Infrastructure Behind Digital Production: A Conversation with Steve Dodier-Lazaro
From Patterns Podcast by Knapsack
July 8, 2025 · 37 min · Season 1 · Episode 135
About this episode
Steve Dodier-Lazaro discusses the importance of treating design systems as integral to digital product development.
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Design systems aren’t just a UI toolkit—they’re the backbone of digital product creation and management. In this episode, engineer and researcher Steve Dodier-Lazaro joins Chris Strahl to unpack why treating design systems like standalone products is holding teams back. They explore what it really takes to scale product design and development in enterprise environments—from shared tooling and token standards to how AI and LLMs can bridge messy, real-wo...
People in this episode
Host: Chris Strahl
Guest: Steve Dodier-Lazaro
Topics covered
- design systems
- digital product creation
- enterprise environments
- product design
- AI
- LLMs
Keywords
- design systems
- digital production
- product management
- enterprise design
- AI
- LLMs
- scaling design
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