
Pat McCabe (Woman Stands Shining) | Indigenous Teachings on the Sacred Feminine and Masculine
From Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl by Thomas Huebl
April 28, 2026 · 58 min · Episode 192
About this episode
Thomas Huebl interviews Pat McCabe about Indigenous perspectives on gender and the sacred roles of masculine and feminine.
This week, Thomas sits down with Pat McCabe (Woman Stands Shining), an Indigenous leader, speaker, teacher, and global ceremonialist, for a conversation exploring Indigenous perspectives on gender through the concepts of the Men’s Nation and Women’s Nation. Pat shares Diné and Lakota wisdom on the spiritual aspect of gender roles and biology, and how the specific process of what some cultures refer to as “moon time” is actually an important and unique capacity that creates a deeper connection to the spirit world. She and Thomas also discuss the spiritual implications of our tech-obsessed world and critique the modern “power-over” paradigm that isolates men and forces them into destructive competition. By contrast, Pat envisions a thriving life paradigm where the sacred masculine acts as a protective and supportive force instead of a dominating one, and we return to an “earth economy” rooted in radical abundance and fearless generosity. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/e1w0jZ4ZW_Y Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Woman Stands Shining, Pat McCabe, is of the Diné Nation (Navajo), adopted into the Lakota spiritual way…
People in this episode
Host: Thomas Huebl
Guest: Pat McCabe
Topics covered
- Indigenous teachings
- sacred feminine
- sacred masculine
- gender roles
- spirituality
- earth economy
Keywords
- Indigenous wisdom
- gender
- spiritual connection
- moon time
- power-over paradigm
- trauma healing
- earth economy
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Diné Nation, Lakota
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