Cover of Fiction

Cover of Fiction

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April 2, 2026 · 1h 5m · Season 1 · Episode 7

About this episode

Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman discuss how Hollywood conveys truths through fiction, exploring themes of ufology and the implications of narratives like Dark.

In “Cover of Fiction,” Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman explore how Hollywood sometimes tells the truth most effectively when it’s disguised as entertainment—and why that might be the only way certain ideas can travel without detonating careers, institutions, or sanity. The episode starts with a chilling secondhand message Bryce says an investigative reporter received from multiple intelligence-community sources: if you really want to understand the phenomenon, watch the German series Dark … and pay attention to its grim nuclear future. From there, Bryce and Brent connect the show’s time-loop paranoia, wormholes, and determinism to modern UAP theories about time, “other realities,” and why disclosure might be both too destabilizing and too complicated to drop in one clean press conference. Then the episode turns personal—and uncanny. Bryce revisits how his 1993 Syfy thriller  Official Denial  became a kind of “greatest hits” of ufology (Majestic, crash retrievals, time-travel implications), and how the “cover of fiction” idea boomeranged back into real life through the infamous John Loengard…

People in this episode

Host: Bryce Zabel

Guest: Brent Friedman

Topics covered

  • Hollywood
  • ufology
  • nuclear future
  • time travel
  • UAP theories
  • fiction vs reality

Keywords

  • Hollywood
  • ufology
  • Dark
  • time travel
  • UAP
  • fiction
  • truth

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Defense Intelligence Agency

Books & works: Dark, Official Denial, Communion

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