
Staring into the Abyss
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March 26, 2026 · 57 min · Season 1 · Episode 6
About this episode
This episode explores the connection between Hollywood's fascination with underwater unknowns and the real-world evidence of Unidentified Submerged Objects.
Using James Cameron’s The Abyss as a springboard, this episode of Sound, Light & Frequency dives beneath the surface of the UFO mystery to explore the strange and increasingly serious world of USOs—Unidentified Submerged Objects. Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman trace the connection between Hollywood’s long fascination with underwater unknowns and the growing real-world evidence that some anomalous craft may move seamlessly through oceans, lakes, and rivers as easily as they move through the sky. Along the way, they connect classic and modern screen stories—from The Abyss to Atlantis: The Lost Empire and beyond—to the deeper question of whether Non-Human Intelligence may have been hiding in Earth’s last great frontier all along. The episode also brings the mystery closer to home with two stories that includes the host’s wives. First, Brent shares the story of seeing an unidentified object plunge into the water near Vancouver Island, with his wife as a witness, then Bryce reflects on his own creative connection to the enduring Atlantis myth when he and his wife were the original writers on Disney’s…
People in this episode
Guests: Bryce Zabel, Brent Friedman
Topics covered
- UFOs
- USOs
- Hollywood
- mythology
- ocean exploration
- Non-Human Intelligence
Keywords
- UFO mystery
- Unidentified Submerged Objects
- ocean
- myth
- James Cameron
- Atlantis
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: The Abyss, Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Places: Vancouver Island
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