The Times–Pablo Torre Loophole

The Times–Pablo Torre Loophole

August 21, 2026 · 44 min

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Julia and Dylan discuss the NBA and ESPN investigations into the Clippers and the implications of the Times’ licensing deal with Pablo Torre on journalism.

Julia and Dylan trade notes on the dueling NBA and ESPN investigations into the Clippers and the odd dynamics of the Times’ licensing deal with Pablo Torre, using it to explore how legacy outlets increasingly outsource journalism—and risk—to independent creators. They also dig into CNN and MS Now’s new “all-access” membership services, and whether cable news can reinvent themselves for a D.T.C. world.

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Organizations: NBA, ESPN, Clippers, Times, CNN, MS Now

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