
How Science Can Fix Dishonest AI - Yoshua Bengio with Nicholas Thompson
From The Most Interesting Thing in AI by Atlantic Re:think
June 3, 2026 · 51 min
About this episode
Yoshua Bengio discusses the potential for a new AI model that prioritizes accuracy and honesty over pleasing users.
In the years following the launch of ChatGPT, as concerns spread over the social and political impacts of LLMs, one person’s warnings seemed particularly dire: Yoshua Bengio’s, a scientist and one of the “godfathers” of AI. The potential negative impacts of his life’s work weighed so heavily on Bengio that he signed his name to an open letter advocating for a pause in AI research. (The pause didn’t happen.) But recently, Bengio has found renewed optimism as he pursues a project dubbed “Scientist AI.” The pitch: What if AI didn’t care about pleasing us, and instead, like a scientist, prioritized accuracy, honesty, and probable outcomes? In a conversation with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, Bengio outlines why he thinks this approach will produce better outcomes, the challenges to implementing a model that polices other (often better-funded) models, and why the age of AI– so far marked by an international arms race– will need greater international cooperation. (00:00) Introduction (05:00) Can we understand what's happening inside neural network vectors and attention systems? (07:00) How ChatGPT changed Bengio’s risk assessment (09:37) The case for optimism (at least when…
People in this episode
Host: Nicholas Thompson
Guest: Yoshua Bengio
Topics covered
- AI ethics
- neural networks
- scientific approach to AI
- international cooperation
- alignment problem
Keywords
- AI
- Scientist AI
- ChatGPT
- neural networks
- alignment problem
- international cooperation
- accuracy
- honesty
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: The Atlantic
Products: ChatGPT
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