#236 How Great Leaders Keep Going When They’re at Zero

#236 How Great Leaders Keep Going When They’re at Zero

From Thinking Differently with Kathie Rotz by Kathie Rotz

March 12, 2026 · 21 min · Season 3 · Episode 236

About this episode

In this episode, elite mountaineer Joel Schauer discusses how to break down massive goals into manageable steps and the importance of resilience in leadership.

What do you do when the vision is too big and you’re running on empty? In Part 2 of this powerful series, elite mountaineer Joel Schauer shareshow climbing Mount Everest taught him to break massive goals into one step,ten breaths at a time . This conversation dives into leadership, resilience,silencing naysayers, and why the hardest moments aren’t hell—they’re the keysto heaven . If you’re leading through pressure, doubt, or exhaustion, this episode will change how you think about perseverance. 👇 What’s your next small step forward? Share in the comments. Visit our YouTube channel and websites, too. * unityconsultingllc.com * kathierotz.com * www.youtube.com/@unityconsultingllc I look forward to connecting with you as we challenge your habits so that you are more efficient and fully empowered! ⁠ https://uppbeat.io/t/infraction/tokyo-drift ⁠License code: XLZKHAGCHNDDIUAG https://uppbeat.io/t/andrey-rossi/seize-the-day ⁠License code: PRHNEXFSFF97ES9M

People in this episode

Host: Kathie Rotz

Guest: Joel Schauer

Topics covered

  • leadership
  • resilience
  • perseverance
  • goal setting
  • overcoming doubt

Keywords

  • leadership
  • resilience
  • mountaineering
  • goal setting
  • perseverance

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