About this episode

E. Jean Carroll discusses her experiences with sexual assault, accountability, and the challenges women face in being believed in court.

When a powerful man says, “She’s not my type,” and a jury (actually, multiple juries) finds that man liable for sexual abuse and defamation, that’s not just a headline — that’s a masterclass in what it takes for a woman to be believed in America. In this episode, writer, journalist, and Not My Type: One Woman vs. a President author E. Jean Carroll joins Nicole to talk about truth, power, paperclips, and what actually happens when you drag a president into court and win. Twice. We talk about the facts, the stories we build around those facts, and why so many people will twist themselves into a pretzel to excuse powerful men while shredding women who speak up. We get into: What actually happened in court — beyond the headlines, hot takes, and Twitter warriors How clothes became her armor and why what she wore in court mattered more than you’d think The “not my type” moment, the infamous deposition photo, and how Trump accidentally proved his own lie Why her sexual history was dragged into the trial — and how she took back that narrative with joy Trauma responses, laughter in the dressing room, and why “if you didn’t scream it doesn’t count” is garbage How mock juries forced her…

People in this episode

Host: Nicole Kalil

Guest: E. Jean Carroll

Topics covered

• sexual assault
• accountability
• double standards
• women's rights
• court cases
• truth and power

Keywords

• sexual abuse
• defamation
• court
• believability
• power dynamics
• narrative control
• ageism
• beauty standards

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: Not My Type: One Woman vs. a President

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