How Men Can Handle Difficult Conversations in Marriage

How Men Can Handle Difficult Conversations in Marriage

September 11, 2026 · 49 min

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Rockne O’Leary discusses a negotiation framework with divorce mediator Joe Dillon to improve difficult conversations in marriage and other relationships.

Rockne O’Leary talks with divorce mediator Joe Dillon, founder of Equitable Mediation Services, about a seven step negotiation framework designed to help people handle hard conversations more effectively. They break down how the Power Up Method applies not just to marriage, but to friendships, coworkers, family members, and boss conversations too. Joe explains why so many arguments keep looping because the real issue never gets addressed, and he shares practical ways to move conversations to...

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Host: Rockne O'Leary

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