Episode 135: Peacefulness in the Midst

Episode 135: Peacefulness in the Midst

June 30, 2026 · 7 min

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Judy Lief discusses the contrast between the façade of tranquility in meditation and the underlying chaos of emotions and thoughts.

[This episode originally aired on June 7, 2022] I used to carry around a cartoon that depicted a beautifully robed monk with a Japanese shoji screen behind him, everything perfectly in its place—and behind the screen everything was complete chaos • it’s very tempting to create a façade of tranquility and peacefulness in our meditation practice and ignore what’s behind the screen: the roiling emotions and thoughts, the confusion and history and regrets • how do w...

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