Ep. 100 Eva, Trevor and Kajsa from Tuff on the messy beauty of working in a self-managing organisation

Ep. 100 Eva, Trevor and Kajsa from Tuff on the messy beauty of working in a self-managing organisation

From Leadermorphosis by Lisa Gill and Tuff Leadership Training

December 5, 2025 · 1h 20m · Season 1 · Episode 100

About this episode

Lisa discusses the complexities and beauty of working in a self-managing organization with her colleagues from Tuff Leadership Training.

For episode 100, Lisa talks with her colleagues Eva Vilella, Trevor Hudson, and Kajsa Thelander Sadio from Tuff Leadership Training about what it's really like to work inside a self-managing organisation. They explore how working at Tuff has transformed each of them, their culture of continuous development with practices like "pebbles" and "mooseheads," and the genuine challenges alongside the beauty – from coordination difficulties to the loneliness of autonomy. A rare inside look at self-management with all its complexity, humor, and humanity. Resources: Moose Heads on the Table – book by Lisa and Karin from Tuff Lisa's blog, 'The tyranny of the inner boss' Trevor's blog about relationship conversations at work Related Leadermorphosis episodes: Ep. 12 with Karin Tenelius, co-founder of Tuff Ep. 85 with Bernadette Wesley on Deliberately Developmental Organisations

People in this episode

Host: Lisa Gill

Guests: Eva Vilella, Trevor Hudson, Kajsa Thelander Sadio

Topics covered

  • self-management
  • organizational culture
  • continuous development
  • challenges of autonomy
  • team dynamics
  • workplace transformation

Keywords

  • self-managing organization
  • Tuff Leadership Training
  • organizational challenges
  • autonomy
  • team culture
  • development practices

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Tuff Leadership Training

Books & works: Moose Heads on the Table, The tyranny of the inner boss

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