10 Years Of A Gay and A NonGay: Let's Talk About Alice with Caroline Litman

About this episode

The episode features Caroline Litman discussing her daughter's struggles with gender identity and the fight for trans rights in the UK.

Trigger Warning: This episode contains multiple mentions of suicide and suicidal thoughts as well as themes that some listeners may find triggering. This is a re-release celebrating a decade of love and allyship on A Gay And A NonGay. This week we're throwing it back to March 2025... In many ways, Caroline Litman was the type of supportive Mum that any trans child could dream to have. She was supportive of her daughter, Alice, who was on the waiting list for gender affirming care. Alice was on the waiting list for a gender identity clinic appointment for 1,023 days when she took her own life. Ever since then, Caroline has fought for trans rights, in an attempt to ensure that the pain her daughter went through never needs to be experienced by anybody else, ever again. On this episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James and Dan are joined by Caroline to talk about the state of trans rights in the UK, her embarrassment about what she used to believe, whether we should be respectful to transphobic people online and why the gender critical movement is so well organised. Follow A Gay & A NonGay TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram…

People in this episode

Hosts: James Barr, Dan Hudson

Guest: Caroline Litman

Topics covered

• trans rights
• mental health
• suicide awareness
• supportive parenting
• gender identity
• social justice

Keywords

• trans rights
• suicide
• gender identity
• supportive parenting
• mental health
• UK
• A Gay and A NonGay

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: A Gay and A NonGay, gender identity clinic, gender critical movement

Places: UK

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