Adventures of Alice & Bob

In this episode, we sit down with Chris Wysopal (aka Weld Pond), co-founder of the legendary L0pht Heavy Industries and CTO/co-founder of Veracode. Chris takes us on a journey from programming BASIC on cassette tapes in the 1970s, through the golden age of BBS culture and phreaking, to testifying before the U.S. Senate as one of the first hackers to bring security concerns to Capitol Hill. You'll hear the untold story of an early penetration test gone spectacularly right—involving command injection, a manhole fire, voicemail hacking, and one very confused executive wondering why hackers wanted a Winnebago. Chris shares what it was like building the first hacker space in America, the challenges of turning hacking from hobby to business, and why creating a new security category took over a decade.

James sits down with cybersecurity pioneer HD Moore, the legendary founder of the Metasploit framework, whose journey from dumpster-diving teenager to cybersecurity pioneer was anything but easy. HD recounts how Microsoft called his employer weekly trying to get him fired for releasing exploits — harassment that ultimately motivated him to "drop zero days continuously, forever, until it got normal." He shares tales of accidentally controlling satellite systems after following network hops too far, backdooring 7,000 systems through tainted warez, and spending $80,000 on his personal credit card to build the Rapid7 team when traditional corporate processes moved too slowly. From crawling through school windows at 5 AM to access Apple computers as a poor kid, to discovering that Palo Alto devices were leaking 5,000 customers' domain admin passwords to internet scanners, HD's stories illuminate the wild early days when vulnerability research was considered criminal activity rather than corporate necessity. Discover how he accidently destroyed his first self-built computer, why his ex-wife held a pile of cash as bail money ready during years of FBI visits, and how the Phrack IRC channel became an unlikely recruitment ground for his first cybersecurity job.

In this episode, James Maude sits down with Brian Wagner, CTO at Revenir, whose cybersecurity story started at just 15, building Microsoft Access databases for a medical hospice. From teenage entrepreneur to AWS security specialist, Brian’s path has been anything but ordinary. He pulls back the curtain on his time with the elite Zipline incident response team where he confronted a catastrophic VPC peering breach that spiraled into data theft and blackmail. Together, James and Brian dissect how vendor network compromises can silently open doors into your cloud and why Brian insists that true security isn’t something you bolt on later - it’s a culture you build from day one.

Former FBI Supervisory Special Agent Miguel Clarke joins hosts James Maude and Marc Maiffret to reflect on 25 years at the front lines of cybersecurity. From coding in BASIC on his Commodore 64 to helping uncover the digital trail behind 9/11, Miguel shares raw, behind-the-scenes stories of how real cyber investigations unfold. In this episode, you'll hear how a casual beer in Nebraska sparked a career in federal law enforcement, why psychology plays a critical role in executing search warrants, and how early cyber sleuths tracked international hackers with nothing but screen scrapes and UUencoded files. Miguel also takes us deep inside the Swedish secret police operation that caught the infamous Csaba Richter hacker, explores the rise of Eastern Europe’s cybercrime economy, and breaks down the forensic breakthroughs that helped investigators piece together one of the most pivotal events in modern history. 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 01:32 - Early Technology Interest with Commodore Computers 03:24 - System Shock and the $2,100 Computer Upgrade Nightmare 05:22 - Gaming Influence on Career Path and FBI Power Dynamics 06:42 - The Beer That Started an FBI Career 10:03 - FBI Training and Imposter Syndrome at Quantico 14:11 - Sales Skills Meet FBI Investigation Work 18:04 - Search Warrant Psychology and Family Dynamics 24:08 - The Chaba Richter International Cyber Case 27:38 - Eastern European Cybercrime Economy Theory 31:51 - Evolution from Website Defacements to Nation-State Attacks 36:24 - Digital Aspects of 9/11 Investigation 42:25 - 9/11 Digital Forensics and HTML Tag Discovery 47:56 - Transition from FBI to Private Sector 51:32 - Leadership Philosophy and Closing Thoughts

BeyondTrust's 2025 Microsoft Vulnerability Report dropped—and it’s a wake-up call. With 1,360 new vulnerabilities and elevation of privilege attacks dominating the landscape, even insurance companies are backing away from covering privileged service accounts. In this special episode, cybersecurity veterans James Maude, Paula Januszkiewicz, Sami Laiho, Kip Boyle, and Charles Henderson dig into what the data from the 2025 report really means. Forget the fearmongering—this is about clear-headed, field-tested advice. You’ll hear why flashy security tools often sit unused, how simple controls could prevent 60% of attacks, and why "secure by default" still hasn’t delivered. From AI-driven vulnerability discovery to cloud missteps that could sink your stack, this isn’t your usual “patch faster” sermon—it’s a blueprint for getting real results. If you’re overwhelmed by alerts, underwhelmed by your security stack, or just tired of doing more with less, this episode is your lifeline.

In today's episode, James Maude dives into the world of cyber warfare, espionage, and hacked satellites with the legendary Chris Kubecka—aka the "Chief Hacktress." From grounding overconfident pilots as one of the first female C-5 loadmasters, to investigating mysterious “vampire satellites” that silently disable spacecraft, Chris has lived a life straight out of a cyber-thriller. She recounts her front-line role in the aftermath of the Shamoon cyberattack, one of the most destructive digital assaults in history, which wiped 35,000 systems at Saudi Aramco and sent shockwaves across global security circles. Plus: embassy cyber drama, Turkish spies posing as English students, Yemeni drones with a grudge, and how AI is now a tool in her mission to expose and disrupt digital authoritarianism. And yes, we also talk about why your boat is a terrifying floating IoT vulnerability.