Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Building community is central to enabling an industry to grow. There are few better ways to build community and foster trusted relationships than to break bread. As the wealth channel continues to expand its adoption of private markets, peer-to-peer learning becomes ever more important. Sharing experiences and perspectives is what will help the wealth channel adopt private market solutions thoughtfully and responsibly.That’s what happened at Franklin Templeton’s Private Markets RIA Advisory Council event and dinner at BLACKBARN recently. Bread was broken. Relationships were built. We also found time to record a podcast at a dinner table with Franklin Templeton’s Head of Private Markets - Americas Wealth Management Dave Donahoo and Summit Wealth Group’s CIO Chelsea Ganey. The discussion granted access to a direct, honest, and raw window into perspectives on how asset managers and wealth managers can work together to educate one another and help move the industry forward. And yes, bread was broken before and after the podcast.Please enjoy this fantastic conversation with Dave and Chelsea on the state of private markets and private wealth and how both asset managers and wealth managers can balance customization and differentiation with scale.Thanks, Dave and Chelsea, for such a thoughtful and fascinating conversation.Show Notes00:00 A message from Ultimus, our Sponsor00:57 Meet The Guests01:07 Private Markets Are Eating World01:29 Why Create RIA Council01:49 Franklin Client-First DNA02:09 From Public To Private02:43 Listening Beyond Product03:07 Peer To Peer Insights04:12 Chelsea On The Benefits of Advisory Council04:36 Inbox Overload And Filtering05:10 Serving Diverse RIA Needs06:15 Many RIAs Within One06:30 What CIOs Need Most06:54 Educating Advisors At Scale07:32 GPs Must Listen Better08:26 What Education Really Means09:01 Repeatable Advisor Resources09:54 Avoid Oversimplifying Complexity10:30 Education Shifts To Choice11:50 Balancing Choice And Customization13:13 Centralized Menu For Scale15:10 Sober Selling And Integrity16:30 Franklin Private Markets Platform17:59 Specialist Managers Model18:28 Infrastructure Partnership Play19:22 Do More With Less Managers21:04 Holistic Options For Advisors21:47 Where Product Innovation Goes22:23 Sun Moon Stars Aligning22:53 Future Access 401k Models23:12 Start With Investment Why23:29 Allocator Innovation Lens24:09 Models Versus Customization24:35 Why Innovation Matters24:53 No One Right Way25:18 Whats Still Missing25:33 Scaling And The Middle25:55 Magic Wand Question26:19 Plumbing And Reporting26:32 Perpetual Structure Tradeoffs26:46 Protecting Investment Integrity27:30 Long Term Over Short Term27:42 Need More CIO Mindsets28:03 Strategic Allocation For Alts28:50 Chelsea On Strategic Framing29:34 Making Liquidity Intuitive30:06 Educating On Liquidity Risk30:29 Private Markets Risk Reframe31:32 Dave On Portfolio Construction32:14 Standardizing Industry Terms32:42 Building Trust With Liquidity33:45 A Fun Question38:10 Client Analogies That Stick40:43 Fat Pitch Opportunities Today42:53 Closing Thoughts And ThanksA Word from Our Sponsor, UltimusThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus, the full-service fund administrator and transfer agent powering asset managers in private and public markets. As alts go mainstream, you need real expertise to handle complex fund structures, connect with key distribution partners, and handle sophisticated compliance, reporting, and transparency demands.That’s Ultimus: high-tech, high-touch solutions for over 450 clients and 2,500 funds with $775B in assets under administration. Backed by an expert team of over 1,200 employees, they place client service at the core of their business, helping you navigate complexity during your fund structuring or launch and then supporting you through every stage of growth. Whether you’re already in the market or thinking about entering private wealth, you can trust their team’s deep expertise in retail alternatives to help you reach your goals.Learn more at ultimusfundsolutions.com or email info@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.The Goldman Sachs Alternatives Summit “convened leaders across finance, geopolitics, technology, and culture” to discuss themes driving global markets.2025’s Alternatives Summit was about “navigating a world in flux,” as the firm’s recap of its event noted. The event aimed to help investors cut through the noise and put together the pieces of the puzzle in a dynamic and increasingly complex world. Alt Goes Mainstream joined the event to have unscripted conversations with Goldman Sachs Alternatives leaders to cut through the noise by unpacking key themes and trends at the intersection of private markets and private wealth.In this special series, we went behind the scenes and interviewed six Goldman Sachs Alternatives leaders about their current thinking on private markets and how the firm has built and evolved its private markets capabilities.This conversation was with Michael Bruun, Global Co-Head of Private Equity within Goldman Sachs Asset Management. He is a member of the Goldman Sachs Asset Management International Management Committee, Asset Management (AM) Private Equity Investment Committee, AM Growth Equity Investment Committee, AM Sustainable Investing Investment Committee, Asset & Wealth Management Inclusion and Diversity Council and is a member of the Goldman Sachs Firmwide Client Franchise Committee. In 2021, Michael was named Head of EMEA Private Equity within Goldman Sachs Asset Management and from 2019 to 2021, he was Head of Private Equity and Growth Equity investing for India. Michael joined the Merchant Banking Division in 2010 and worked in London and New York. Prior to that, he was a member of the Nordic Mergers & Acquisitions team in the Investment Banking Division (IBD), after initially joining IBD in 2005. Michael joined Goldman Sachs as an Analyst in the Fixed Income, Currency and Commodities Division in 2004. He was named Managing Director in 2013 and partner in 2016. Michael serves on the boards of Advania, Kahoot!, LRQA, Norgine, Synthon and Trackunit. He is a founding partner of the Human Practice Foundation in Denmark and a trustee in the UK. Michael earned a BA in Economics from the University of Copenhagen.Michael and I had a fascinating conversation about private equity, today’s investing environment, the hardest part about investing today, and how product innovation is impacting private equity’s market structure. We discussed:How investors can approach allocating to private equity today.The toolkit required to generate returns in private equity.The importance of network and operating partners in value creation.How new product innovation and new structures like evergreens and continuation vehicles are changing growth equity and private equity. The importance of understanding macro in a new world order of geopolitics and a new world order of investing.The skillsets that investors need to have to be a good investor in today’s investing environment.The hardest part about investing today. Thanks Michael for sharing your wisdom, expertise, and passion about private equity. Show Notes00:56 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast02:04 Michael Bruun's Background and Career02:31 Evolution of Private Equity03:14 Impact of Market Changes on Private Equity03:43 Operational Value Creation04:50 Importance of Value Creation Resources05:33 Driving EBITDA Growth06:04 Goldman's Value Acceleration Resources07:18 Focus on Data and AI08:27 AI in Different Sectors11:22 Goldman's Investment Strategy14:28 Scale and Capital in Private Equity15:40 Co-Investments and Evergreen Vehicles18:11 Flexibility in Private Markets23:53 Navigating Volatility24:59 Post-Investment Operations25:23 Goldman Sachs Engineering26:05 Future of Private Equity27:39 CEO AI Academy28:01 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.The Goldman Sachs Alternatives Summit “convened leaders across finance, geopolitics, technology, and culture” to discuss themes driving global markets.2025’s Alternatives Summit was about “navigating a world in flux,” as the firm’s recap of its event noted. The event aimed to help investors cut through the noise and put together the pieces of the puzzle in a dynamic and increasingly complex world. Alt Goes Mainstream joined the event to have unscripted conversations with Goldman Sachs Alternatives leaders to cut through the noise by unpacking key themes and trends at the intersection of private markets and private wealth.In this special series, we went behind the scenes at the Goldman Sachs Alternatives Conference and interviewed six Goldman Sachs Alternatives leaders about their current thinking on private markets and how the firm has built and evolved its private markets capabilities.This conversation was with Kristin Olson, Partner, Global Head of Alternatives for Wealth within Asset & Wealth Management and a member of the Management Committee. In her role, she oversees the global alternatives platform and alternatives product strategy across wealth client businesses. Kristin joined Goldman Sachs in 1998 as an Analyst in the Financial Institutions Group in the Investment Banking Division. She was named Managing Director in 2008 and Partner in 2014. Kristin is a member of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, a leading research institution focusing on cancer, neuroscience, plant biology, genomics, and bioinformatics, and is a member of the Georgetown University Board of Regents. Kristin earned a BS in International Economics, magna cum laude, from Georgetown University in 1998.Kristin and I had a fascinating conversation about private markets, private wealth, how to approach strategic and tactical asset allocation, the evolving needs of an investor, and why education and financial media are becoming increasingly important tools for investors. We discussed:Lessons learned from working with Goldman Private Wealth clients that the firm has applied to how they approach serving client needs across the wealth channel with private markets solutions.Why Millennials are interested in investing in private markets.How investors can access innovation by investing in private markets.How can alternative asset managers approach educating the client and investor of the future?How private markets fits into a strategic asset allocation framework.The next evolution in private markets education for the wealth channel investor.The main source of information about private markets for investors.The future of implementation, model portfolios, and hybrid products in private markets.Thanks Kristin for sharing your wisdom, expertise, and passion at the intersection of private markets and private wealth. Show Notes00:41 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast01:35 Kristin Olson's Background and Career Evolution01:59 The Evolution of Alternative Investments02:46 Lessons from Goldman Wealth Clients03:36 Diversification and Education in Alternatives04:23 Serving Broader Wealth Channels05:37 Balancing Customization and Scale07:20 Survey Insights on Millennial Investors08:44 Building the Goldman Sachs Brand for the Future09:43 The Importance of Education in Alternatives10:53 Early Adoption of Private Markets in Wealth Channels12:28 Consolidation and Partnerships in Private Markets16:42 Advice for New Investors in Private MarketsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.The Goldman Sachs Alternatives Summit “convened leaders across finance, geopolitics, technology, and culture” to discuss themes driving global markets.The 2025 Alternatives Summit was about “navigating a world in flux,” as the firm’s recap of its event noted. The event aimed to help investors cut through the noise and put together the pieces of the puzzle in a dynamic and increasingly complex world. Alt Goes Mainstream joined the event to have unscripted conversations with Goldman Sachs Alternatives leaders to cut through the noise by unpacking key themes and trends at the intersection of private markets and private wealth.In this special series, we went behind the scenes at the Goldman Sachs Alternatives Conference and interviewed six Goldman Sachs Alternatives leaders about their current thinking on private markets and how the firm has built and evolved its private markets capabilities.Our first conversation was with Matt Gibson, who is head of the Client Solutions Group within Goldman Sachs Asset Management. Prior to his current role, Matt served as co-head of the Technology, Media and Telecommunications Group in the Investment Banking Division from 2021 to 2023. Before that Matt served as co-head of One Goldman Sachs from 2019 to 2021 and served as global co-head of Client Coverage within Investment Banking Services from 2015 to 2020. He joined Goldman Sachs in 2001 as an associate and was named managing director in 2008 and partner in 2010. Prior to joining the firm, Matt was a US naval officer for five years, working in a variety of capacities on two different US Navy ships. During this time, Matt’s service centered on operations in the Western Pacific, Persian Gulf, Mediterranean Sea and Adriatic Sea. Matt serves on the US Naval Academy Board of Trustees and the Global Advisory Board for the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University. Matt earned a BS in Political Science from the United States Naval Academy in 1994 and an MBA from the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University in 2001.Matt and I had a fascinating conversation about Goldman’s evolution of its private markets strategy and how the firm’s “One Goldman Sachs” initiative has enabled them to bring the entire firm to bear as it helps deliver solutions for both wealth and institutional clients. We covered:How Matt’s experiences across the firm inform the way he approaches solving needs for clients.The how and the why behind the “One Goldman Sachs” initiative.Goldman’s client-centric approach. Why it matters to be an early mover in certain instances in private markets.Goldman’s approach to partnerships in private markets.The power of the platform and how Goldman leverages its platform to help its private markets efforts.The importance of understanding geopolitics in today’s increasingly complicated investing world.Thanks Matt for sharing your expertise, wisdom, and passion for private markets and private wealth. Show Notes00:42 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast00:56 Goldman Sachs Alternatives Conference Overview01:09 Interview with Matt Gibson02:26 Matt Gibson's Career Journey02:50 The Importance of Client Engagement03:17 One Goldman Sachs Initiative04:13 Commercial and Cultural Impact of One Goldman Sachs05:11 Convergence of Public and Private Markets06:04 Growth in Retail and Institutional Alternatives07:44 Balancing Customization with Scale08:23 Leveraging the Goldman Sachs Platform10:10 Origination and Investment Banking Synergy11:23 Infusing Goldman Sachs Culture12:34 Private Markets Culture and Strategy13:35 Building Capabilities Through Partnerships15:19 LP Relationships and Private Markets Evolution16:44 Strategic Decisions in Private Markets19:13 Agility in Product Strategy21:08 Serving Clients in Private Markets25:41 Geopolitical Considerations in Investing28:06 Mega Trends and Geopolitics29:47 Future of Private Markets30:37 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.