An Art To It

A passion for colour, flowers and making all came together for Katie Robbins as she said goodbye to a career in marketing and welcomed a new creative direction as a ceramicist. In a lively and very open chat Katie - known by many on Instagram with her memorable handle @ceramicmagpie - shares her journey from a career in marketing to becoming a full-time ceramicist, and how creativity was always present in her life - even before she could imagine it becoming her work. She talks about studying French and politics at university, working in marketing, keeping her creative levels topped up with evening classes, and eventually finding her way to clay after having children. Katie reflects on the slow process of building confidence as a self-taught maker, the challenge of calling herself a ceramicist, and how selling her first pieces helped her begin to believe in her work. She also discusses how her marketing background has helped her shape her brand, understand social media, and bring people along on her creative journey. We talk about the realities of running a creative business: learning new skills, managing admin, showing up online, doing both general markets and specialist ceramic shows, developing a product range, and balancing heart-led making with commercial decisions. Katie and I also explore the importance of community, customer experience, and delighting buyers - from sharing the behind-the-scenes process to creating beautiful packaging and memorable moments. A warm and practical conversation about confidence, creativity, flowers, ceramics, and the many skills involved in building a sustainable creative business. You can see Katie's work at https://www.ktrobbinsceramics.com/ and on instagram she is @ceramicmagpie

Freedom of choice and taking up all opportunities are just two of the topics I chat about with visual artist Laura Menzies in episode 52 of An Art to It. From a multidisciplinary arts degree and early love of dance to developing a distinctive painting practice in Cornwall, Laura shares her creative business journey; and reveals how studying, teaching and later completing an MA in Fine Art helped her refine her artistic voice. We also discuss the reality of building a creative business: learning the business side on the job, approaching and working with galleries, and the inventive collaborations that have helped Laura reach new audiences, including projects with Celtic & Co https://www.celticandco.com/ and Neptune https://www.neptune.com/. Laura speaks openly about growing in confidence, learning to market herself in ways that feel aligned, and the value of staying open, flexible and resilient in a creative career. Topics covered Laura's early creative life and multidisciplinary arts degree Why visual art, rather than performance, became her focus Moving to Cornwall and the draw of the coast and creative community How her painting practice developed during and after her MA at Falmouth Landscape, memory, movement and "visual poetry" in her work Learning the business side of being an artist Building confidence in promoting and talking about her work Collaborating with Celtic & Co on a range of clothes using her painting Using books, branding and beautifully styled imagery as part of her business Growing into a more entrepreneurial mindset Her thoughts on success, freedom and creative choice Advice on resilience, flexibility and running a successful creative business You can see Laura's work at https://www.lauramenzies.co.uk/ and on instagram she is @lauramenziesart

Word play and the serenity of printing are under discussion in this episode of An Art to It, when I'm joined by artist and maker Megan Fatharly. An exciting talent, Meg has won a deserved reputation - and fan base - for her witty and distinctive embossed metal work. In a lively and honest chat we talk about Meg's relationship with place (Scottish beginnings, Cornwall now), her diagnosis of ADHD in her late twenties, and how art-making became both a way to process the world and a "capsule of process" she could return to when things felt too much. Meg shares the behind-the-scenes truth of building a creative business: the push-pull between play and commercial demand, the exhaustion of systems and delegation, the emotional reality of visibility, and why success can feel strangely rigid when your work becomes known for "one thing". We also discuss taking part in the trade show Top Drawer, the difference between that and a market, how audiences connect with the person behind the work, and a line that Meg wrote in her blog about showing her work at Top Drawer that stood out for me: "paying attention to where the work naturally wants to go, rather than where I think it should go to be more easily understood." I asked how that fits in with being an entrepreneur We chat about: The pull of geography and "sense of place" in creative identity ADHD, hyper-fixation, and the relief of processes that slow the mind down Meg's love of printmaking Poetry, collage and using words to anchor ambiguity When your art becomes a business: contracts, VAT, systems and structure The tension between exploring new work and "will it sell?" mentality Visibility and boundaries: when people want to meet the maker You can see Meg's work at https://meganfatharly.com/ and @printcessmeg Meg very much admires: The Fabled Thread Website: https://www.thefabledthread.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefabledthread Meg worked alongside the Institute of Imagination facilitating workshops. Website: https://www.instituteofimagination.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/instituteofimagination Meg took part in Top Drawer with Cornwall Shop Small and Creative Kernow Associates Website: https://www.cornwallshopsmall.co.uk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cornwallshopsmall Website: https://associates.creativekernow.org.uk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creativekernowassociates John was one of Meg's tutors during foundation and degree, and his open-access print studio remains an invaluable creative space in Cornwall. Website: https://www.johnhowardprintstudios.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnhowardprint

In this episode of An Art to It, I'm joined by ceramic artist Carolyn Tripp for a very enterianting and thoughtful conversation about finding your voice, building confidence, and taking the long view in a creative career. Carolyn shares her journey from advertising to ceramics, how loss shaped a deeply personal body of work, and why success in the art world often comes slowly - through consistency, clarity, and community rather than quick wins. In this episode we talk about: Finding your true creative voice later in life How personal experience can become universal in your work Why Carolyn describes her work as a "visual diary" of things she notices The value of getting help with words, storytelling, and communication Imposter syndrome - even when showing your work at a prestigious event like Collect How previous careers can quietly support a creative business Selling work through galleries and how collectors engage with ceramics Why evolution in your work needs to be careful and considered What success looks like when you play the long game Carolyn also shared businesses that she loves for their brands and their authenticity: her local bakers @august.bakery_ and skincare specialist @drsambunting You can find Carolyn's work at https://www.carolyntceramics.co.uk/ and on instagram she's @carolyntceramics Carolyn is showing her work with the Cynthia Corbett Gallery https://www.thecynthiacorbettgallery.com/ at the Craft's Council https://www.craftscouncil.org.uk/ international event, Collect at London's Somerset House https://www.somersethouse.org.uk/ from 26th Feb If you enjoy An Art to It podcasts, please, please do follow us on Apple and help more people find us. It's really easy, open the Apple podcast app, go to An Art to It; the top three little dots on the upper right hand corner, touch that and it will offer you 'Go to Show' select that, your on the home page, and then back to the three dots, select that and tap FOLLOW. Thank you v much!

2026 - and series five - kicks off with An Art to It's first ever transatlantic episode: this week I'm joined by gallerist Liz Lidgett of Liz Lidgett Gallery + Design in Des Moines, Iowa. https://www.lizlidgett.com/ Liz shares how growing up with a free local museum - and a grandmother who bought her art lessons every Christmas - shaped her belief that art should be for everyone. After studying art history and working as an in-house curator for a major corporate collection, she left the corporate world after exactly one year to become a freelance art advisor before opening her own gallery in 2019… just months before the pandemic. In our lively chat we talk about how being based in the midwest - rather than LA or New York City - gave Liz the space to experiment with selling art, and how Instagram and lockdown turned a her local gallery into a global business. and why Liz treats her gallery as her biggest artwork – built on joy, ethics, and a strict "no jerks" rule. Inspired by her belief that art really IS for everyone, 2026 sees the launch of Liz's book, Art for Everyone where she demystifies buying, hanging and living with art for people who "love art but don't know where to start." It can be pre-ordered now on Amazon. In this episode, we chat about: Why being in the "overlooked" Midwest gave Liz freedom to play, make mistakes and experiment Moving from art history and corporate curation into art advising - and what she learned from seeing behind the scenes of galleries. How her Midwest gallery now ships to all 50 US states and 11+ countries, and why location matters less when your voice and eye are strong The values at the heart of her business: accessibility, kindness, paying artists on time, "no jerks", and approachable (never snooty) language Building a community for artists: annual surveys, honest questions, and a legendary 5-year party that brought 35–40 artists together in person The emotional and as Liz says, "slightly woo-woo" side of gallery work: believing that each artwork has a person it's "meant" for – and her job is to connect them What galleries can still offer artists in an age of direct sales and social media Treating the gallery itself as her biggest artwork, and why joy is non-negotiable in how she runs her business. @lizlidgettgallery @lizlidgett @elaine_dye_ @thebyregallery

In this week's episode, I chat to visual artist Gabriella Buckingham, whose creative path has taken her from illustration, to product design, to online teaching, and finally to the richly expressive painting practice she runs today. Gabriella reflects on her childhood desire to be an artist and how finally reaching her destination "was just what I wanted. So I'm very grateful." And how her time spent in the business side of a greetings card business left her with invaluable knowledge of trends, sales analysis and creative stamina which she could ultimately apply to her own creative business. "I really feel that to run art as a business, you've got to be an optimist. You've got to be able to pick yourself up when you fail." We discuss: • Our shared Lithuanian heritage - and the mystery at the centre of Gabriella's family history • Growing up obsessed with the paintings in her family home - as well as colour and ballet Why she realised graphic design wasn't for her as she cared far more about the painting than the type. The commercial years that gave her strong business foundations Life as a kitchen-table business owner on Not On The High Street, https://www.notonthehighstreet.com/ and the moment she realised success was costing her more than it gave back Creating and teaching her own online painting course, and why seven-month "live experiences" are as intense as they sound Entering work for the Royal Academy Summer Exhibition - and the electric moment she learned she'd been selected Brand inspiration, colour psychology, and why she thinks she's a "Spring business with an Autumn edge" inspired by Fiona Humberstone @thebrand_stylist https://www.thebrand-stylist.com/ Brands she loves: Boden https://www.boden.com/, Toast https://www.toa.st/, and Kemi Telford https://kemitelford.com/ Success, according to Gabriella: "the life I have now… just with a little more space, more painting, and more galleries." You can enjoy Gabriella's work at - https://www.gabriellabuckingham.com/ and on instagram @gabriellabuckingham

In this episode of An Art to It, I'm joined by applied artist Amy Stringer, who has just celebrated ten years of running her creative business. Amy's practice moves between jewellery and ceramics – think structural, architectural, process-led work that blurs the boundaries between wearable pieces and sculptural objects. Starting with body adornment and bold cement forms, she's now known for both her chain-led silver jewellery and her carved Kurinuki vessels, where jewellery sometimes lives inside the ceramic object. Together, Elaine and Amy talk about what has changed over the last decade for makers, and what it really takes to sustain a creative career over the long term. They discuss: How the landscape for makers has shifted pre- and post-Covid, from material costs and gallery closures to the boom in workshops Why Amy's teaching practice has become a vital pillar in her business, and what she loves about passing on traditional skills Her transition from "fashion-minded" body adornment to process-led jewellery and ceramics, and the tension she's felt around the word "artist" Working with Kurinuki - an ancient Japanese technique of carving clay- and why her ceramic pieces can take months before they even reach the kiln Pricing, value and how ceramic audiences respond to labour-intensive work The differences between jewellery shows and ceramics shows, and why ceramics seems to invite more play The realities of self-employment as a maker: admin, tax, tools, rejection and the business skills that are rarely taught at art school How Amy approaches teaching second-career makers who are thinking about going professional The role galleries have played in her journey, and why having the confidence to approach them early on made such a difference What success looks like for her next ten years - from multidisciplinary exhibitions to sustaining a comfortable, creatively fulfilling life And, as always, I ask Amy the podcast's central question: Is there an art to running a successful creative business? Amy's answer is honest, encouraging and very recognisable to anyone trying to make their creative work pay the bills: it takes a particular personality, a lot of internal drive, and a willingness to keep going through self-doubt and imposter syndrome. You can see Amy's work @amystringerdesign and at https://www.amystringer.co.uk/

What happens when the art you're known for no longer brings you joy? In this episode, mixed media artist Jane Wilson shares her journey from fashion buying to creative commercial success, and how a door closing lead to her finding her true voice as a playful, joy-filled artist. Jane opens up about early experiences of imposter syndrome, the emotional fallout from a tough gallery break-up, and how lockdown gave her space to rediscover creativity on her own terms. We talk about the art of starting over - more than once - and why success looks different at different stages of life and career. Jane also reflects on professional ambition, the importance of artist identity, and how she's channelling her experience into launching her first online workshop. We talk about: Jane's shift from fashion buyer to professional artist Why gallery representation isn't always the dream Imposter syndrome and reclaiming the title of 'artist' Playing your way into a more joyful practice The power of beginner's mind Success, validation, and new directions after 50 Creative professionalism (and why every artist needs a delivery note!) You can see Jane's work online at https://www.janewilsonartist.co.uk/ and on instagram @janewilsonartist

In this week's episode of An Art to It, I chat to artist I talk to the multi-talented Franca Westaway - an artist, designer, educator and all-round creative force. Franca's work spans textiles, ceramics, teaching, painting, mural commissions - and a deep commitment to following her creative instincts wherever they lead. We talked about her early love of fashion and textiles, and how she pivoted from working in the London fashion industry to teaching art and then building her own surface pattern business. She shares how creating bold work helped her resist the "invisibility cloak" that can come with middle age, and why she's not interested in following a conventional business model if it means compromising her values. Franca opens up about the ethical challenges of mass production, the environmental questions that surface in her creative decisions, and how she's now moving into small-batch ceramics that are unapologetically personal and hand-painted — even if they aren't "convenient" to scale. We also talk about the many hats a creative has to wear — from bookkeeper to social media manager — and how being open to possibility and saying yes has shaped her journey. As ever, it's a rich, honest, and inspiring conversation about finding your own rhythm and way of doing business in a creative life. Franca references some fellow creatives whose work and ethos inspires her: https://idknitthatco.com/ https://www.rachaeltaylordesigns.com/ https://annahaymandesigns.com/ You can see Franca's work on Instagram @Francawestaway23 and her website is francawestaway.com

Artist and mentor Lisa Henshall joins me from her Norfolk studio to talk about the creative spiral that underpins her practice. From a wild and free Cornish childhood to painting at the kitchen table with three small children, Lisa shares how she's built a full-time art career rooted in self-trust, sharing, and expansion. We talk about the business of being an artist, what real gallery support looks like, and how each phase of making and mentoring loops back into the next. Lisa also reflects on the early days of balancing single parent-hood with painting, her teaching experiences, and why she's now finally returning to study to undertake a Masters at Arts University Bournemouth aub.ac.uk We discuss: Lisa's concept of the creative spiral Growing up on Cornish coast with a love of painting - and being allowed to do it! From jewellery to large-scale work and international shows How mentoring and teaching feed into her creative practice Showing vs selling—and why both are part of the process What great artist-gallery relationships really look like Building a business that feels like you You can see Lisa's work at lisahenshall.com and on instagram @lisahenshallartwork Lisa shows her work at Art Dog https://www.artdoglondon.co.uk/ and also now in Ireland at the Doorway Gallery in Dublin https://www.thedoorwaygallery.com/ If you're interested in my course for artists and makers: An Insider's Guide to Gallery Success you can find out more here: https://elainedye.com/an-insiders-guide-to-gallery-success/

In this episode of An Art to It, I chat to artist Susan Kinley, whose striking glasswork blends a fine art sensibility with applied material techniques. We talk about her journey from fine art textiles at Goldsmiths in London https://www.gold.ac.uk/ and mixed media work at the Royal College of Art, https://www.rca.ac.uk/ to her layered, landscape-inspired glass practice rooted in Cornwall. Sue shares how place, light, and materiality have always guided her creative path, from working with Japanese papers to developing glass installations inspired by ancient field patterns and standing stones. She reflects on her time as a teacher and her early years in London, and how a fellowship at Falmouth University https://www.falmouth.ac.uk/ led her to make Cornwall her home. We also explore the practical and professional side of working in glass: from navigating galleries and site-specific commissions to pricing, installing, and selling work that sits between sculpture and painting. Sue offers thoughtful insights into what success looks like at different stages of a creative career, and how recognising your limits - and asking for help - is sometimes the most creative act of all. You can see Sue's work at https://www.susankinley.co.uk/ and @susan.kinley

Artist, Gallery Owner, Creative Force This week, I'm joined by Sharon Harvey: a painter, gallery owner, and passionate creative, to explore what it really takes to run a commercial gallery while maintaining an active artistic practice. Sharon shares her winding journey from a successful corporate career into the art world, what led her to study fine art in her 40s, and how a chance conversation changed everything. Now the founder of Sanctuary Gallery in Gloucestershire, she offers a unique dual perspective on gallery-artist relationships, creative confidence, and the realities of selling art today. We discuss: - The courage it takes to pivot careers and pursue art later in life - How becoming a gallery owner reshaped Sharon's view of working with galleries - The practicalities and pressures of running a gallery solo - The power of relationships in both making and selling art - Why artists need to approach galleries like partners—not just platforms - And the art of holding your nerve when things don't sell Sharon talks about Daphne Vaughn http://daphnevaughan.com who inspired her to apply for the foundation course, and Mercedes Smith Director of Fine Art Communications https://www.fineartcommunications.co.uk/people This episode is packed with honest reflections, useful insights, and quiet encouragement for anyone trying to build a creative career on their own terms. Find Sharon and the Sanctuary Gallery Instagram: @sharon_harvey_art Gallery: sanctuarygallery.com