
About this episode
Phil Klay reflects on the moral implications of the Trump administration's actions and the culture of cruelty in America.
On the last Angry Planet of 2025, novelist and Marine Corps veteran Phil Klay returns to reflect on a year of spectacle and cruelty. Between the Pentagon’s boat strikes and the administration’s constant barrage of grotesque memes, it feels like America is a crueler and cruder place. For better and worse, the Presidency sets a moral standard for the country and Trump has lowered that standard. Klay wrote about all this in a piece at The New York Times and he’s here with us today to talk through it. “It’s too easy to condemn.” The project is spectacles of cruelty “You’re not supposed to be joining a gang of thugs.” What is this doing to us as a nation? The lust for cruelty and domination Klay’s review of Hegseth’s first year War vs. Defense “Read long things.” Living in the Hell of opinions Ending on a high note What Trump Is Really Doing With His Boat Strikes Trump Admin’s Racist Halo Memes Are ‘A New Level of Dehumanization of Immigrants’ Trump has accused boat crews of being narco-terrorists. The truth, AP found, is more nuanced Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/warcollege . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
People in this episode
Guest: Phil Klay
Topics covered
- spectacle
- cruelty
- politics
- Trump
- media
- morality
Keywords
- Pentagon
- memes
- Hegseth
- war
- defense
Mentioned in this episode
Products: The New York Times
Places: America
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