
266 | Push or Pull - What Drives Your Success
From Art of Consulting Podcast by Andy Fry, Cat Lam
April 9, 2026 · 13 min · Season 10 · Episode 3
About this episode
The episode explores the dynamics of being pushed versus being pulled toward success through real-life stories and examples.
Push or Pull: What Drives Your Success In this solo episode, the host dives into one of the most powerful dynamics in human performance and leadership—the difference between being pushed and being pulled toward success. Through vivid real-life stories, including an elite high school athlete who broke a national record that stood for over 21 years, and a reflection on Deion Sanders' relentless pull as a leader, the host unpacks what it truly means to be a 'puller'—and why understanding this dynamic can transform how you lead, grow, and protect yourself and the people you care about. Key Insights You'll Learn · Push vs. Pull Defined: Being pushed means being coerced, encouraged, or pressured by an external force. Being pulled means being drawn forward by someone or something so compelling that you choose to keep up—or get left behind. · The Athlete Who Pushed Back: A standout young athlete named Vance broke the U.S. 300-meter hurdle record—a mark that stood for over two decades—and exemplified what intrinsic drive looks like. His story illustrates that truly great performers aren't pushed; they pull themselves. · Deion Sanders as the Ultimate Puller: The host uses Deion Sanders as…
People in this episode
Hosts: Andy Fry, Cat Lam
Topics covered
- human performance
- leadership
- push vs pull
- intrinsic drive
- motivation
Keywords
- success
- leadership
- motivation
- athlete
- performance
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