
Who Speaks the Language of Social Justice?
From Banished by Amna Khalid & Jeff Snyder
February 8, 2025 · 18 min
About this episode
Musa al-Gharbi discusses his book 'We Have Never Been Woke' and the complexities of social justice in America.
Our friend and colleague Stony Brook sociologist Musa al-Gharbi has a new book out. And it’s a tour-de-force. We Have Never Been Woke is essential reading for anyone who wants to understand the economic, political and cultural divides between the haves and the have-nots in the United States. We were delighted to host Musa for a book talk on the Carleton campus last month. He spoke with Amna in front a packed house. This is episode 2. Episode 1 is available here . Show Notes * On the limitations of diversity training, see this piece from Musa, “Diversity is Important. Diversity-Related Training is Terrible.” Also see this piece we wrote in Inside Higher Ed , “ Don’t Mistake Training for Education. ” And this short, animated explainer video we made, “Training is Performative. Education is Transformative” * Georgetown philosopher Olúfẹ́mi O. Táíwò wrote the book on elite capture ; here’s a précis in the Boston Review. And this piece by Táíwò, published in The Philosopher , is also worth reading: “Being-In-The-Room Privilege: Elite Capture and Epistemic Deference” * Creating a Class: College Admissions and the Education of Elites by Mitchell Stevens is arguably the best book ever…
People in this episode
Hosts: Amna Khalid, Jeff Snyder
Guest: Musa al-Gharbi
Topics covered
- social justice
- economic divides
- cultural divides
- education
- diversity training
Keywords
- social justice
- Musa al-Gharbi
- We Have Never Been Woke
- diversity training
- education
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Stony Brook, Carleton, Georgetown, NYT
Books & works: We Have Never Been Woke, Diversity is Important. Diversity-Related Training is Terrible., Don’t Mistake Training for Education., Training is Performative. Education is Transformative, Being-In-The-Room Privilege: Elite Capture and Epistemic Deference, Creating a Class: College Admissions and the Education of Elites
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