#111 - Hellfire and brimstone
From Beer and Bullsh*t by Ben Johnson
December 19, 2025 · 1h 38m · Episode 111
About this episode
Ben Johnson and Jordan St. John discuss the beer industry in Canada, reflecting on Jordan's career and the current state of beer culture.
This week, two old beer-scented ink-slingers chop it up as Jordan St. John returns and joins Ben to reflect on his days as a nationally-syndicated beer columnist, editor of the beer magazine The Growler, and beer instructor at George Brown. They dig into just how incestuous big beer in Canada is, BJCP certification for the dreaded Ontario Pale Ale, and why no one cares about anything any more. Plus: Jordan mentions upstart Bickford Brewing so many times it seems like he might be on the payroll.
People in this episode
Guest: Jordan St. John
Topics covered
- beer
- journalism
- brewing
- beer industry
- BJCP certification
Keywords
- Ontario Pale Ale
- Bickford Brewing
- The Growler
- George Brown
Mentioned in this episode
Products: Ontario Pale Ale, Bickford Brewing
Places: Canada
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