Behind Gray Walls

In this Stool Pigeon Saturday, Anthony and Samuel chat with writer, director, and documentarian Nik Tizekker, creator of the film Butch Cassidy’s Forgotten Outlaw. The documentary explores the life of Nik’s ancestor, Henry “Bub” Meeks (#574), a lesser-known member of the Wild Bunch but well-known resident of the Old Idaho Penitentiary. Nik discusses how he uncovered Meeks’ story and the process of interviewing family members and historians to bring it to life. To learn more or support the future feature film, visit tizasterproductions.com Watch the documentary here: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v2JLTj7rHw Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0DQ9143ZR/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Butch-Cassidy-s-Forgotten-Outlaw-DVD-X4-Pictures-Documentary/15664668415?classType=REGULAR&from=%2Fsearch&sid=bf35163d-7ec2-4392-be80-669ff312355a Fandango: https://athome.fandango.com/content/browse/details/Butch-Cassidy-s-Forgotten-Outlaw/3948794 Tubi: https://tubitv.com/movies/100041556/butch-cassidy-s-forgotten-outlaw?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHskdBZvhsbohMdQ0mpPG6qm7nMScyWG_c_CVETvWBUq9Ohn9TWrsL-GvvvBE_aem_VsOjR72NBUaA-Rh3ARHMtg

In this live episode, recorded on March 27, 2025, at the Podfort stage at Boise Contemporary Theater during Treefort Music Festival, Anthony shares the story of Walter Lei (#7062 & #8174), a scrappy barroom brawler with a tragic connection to the Women’s Ward. Samuel breaks new ground for the podcast by telling the story from the victims’ perspective for the first time, that of Sterling Tucker and his mother, Laura Conway Tucker, a pioneering Idaho newspaper editor. Video of the episode is available on Spotify and YouTube. https://youtu.be/in4i3oTLvic

In this episode, Anthony, Samuel, and Skye are joined by the voices of the men and women who lived and worked at the prison to guide visitors through the site. Drawing from oral histories of wardens, chaplains, matrons, guards, and prisoners, this immersive tour brings the past to life as we lead you through the Old Idaho Penitentiary’s four-acre grounds.

On today’s Stool Pigeon Saturday, Anthony interviews Steve North, Old Idaho Penitentiary Volunteer and Commander of the Boise Chapter of the Forty and Eight. Steve dives into the captivating history of the Merci Train Boxcar, a symbol of gratitude from France to the United States after World War II. He shares insights about the enduring friendship between the two nations and the incredible stories of generosity and connection that emerged in the aftermath of war. For more information, pick up Boxcar Diplomacy by Jane Sweetland: https://store.history.idaho.gov/GiftShopItem.aspx?I=1526 Steve North's Captivating Conversation: https://youtu.be/kXa2hL_w9fw Jane Sweetland's Captivating Conversation: https://youtu.be/DhJmBsOO7y8 http://mercitrain.org/ https://www.fortyandeight.org Oral History: Truman, Harry S. "President Truman's Radio and Television Address Concluding a Program by the Citizens Food Committee." Delivered from the White House, Washington, D.C., October 5, 1947. National Archives Identifier (NAID) 325599790. News coverage clip provided by Jane Sweetland.

On today’s Stool Pigeon Saturday, Samuel interviews Kirsten Corbett, Exhibits & Communications Director at the Jackson Hole History Museum. Kirsten discusses the rich history of Jackson Hole and shares insights about the opening of the brand-new Jackson Hole Museum. She also provides fresh perspectives on subjects previously featured on the show, including Teton Jackson (#111) and Edwin Trafton (#814), and shares fascinating stories about some of the trailblazing women of Jackson Hole. To check out the Jackson Hole Museum: https://jacksonholehistory.org/ To learn more about the some of the Native American nations of the Tetons. https://www.sbtribes.com/about/ http://windriveredu.com https://easternshoshone.org/about/#:~:text=The%20Eastern%20Shoshone%20Tribe%20has,at%20over%2012%2C000%20years%20ago.

In this episode, Anthony shares the story of James Pickett (Murder), an Irishman whose possibly accidental killing led to his imprisonment in Idaho's oldest standing Territorial jail and ignited a debate over jurisdiction for crimes committed on tribal land, while Skye tells the story of Billy Garland #5127, a woman whose prison experience truly reflected the phrase "do your own time, do your own number" (Passing a Fictitious Check). Watch a presentation with John Bradbury about the history of Pierce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Yp9uLTRXA