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David Morrell gets upset LIVE while the episode is being recorded and the convo instantly turns into a bigger question… was 175 always too much for him? From stories about seeing Morrell in the Ronnie Shields gym to revisiting Shakur saying Morrell was better than Opetaia, the guys break down whether that take aged terribly overnight.Then the focus shifts to Teofimo Lopez and Devin Haney on Inside The Ring with Max Kellerman. The biggest moment? Teo saying Shakur is too small for 147 while Devin says all of them eventually end up at 147 and 154 anyway. After just seeing Shakur recently, the crew debates whether people are seriously underestimating his size.They also react to Ring Magazine’s updated pound-for-pound rankings with Inoue moving to #1 and Benavidez jumping Bivol at #5. Did Ring get it right or are they moving the goalposts?Keyshawn Davis, Brian Norman and Kelvin Davis all return on what feels like a redemption card, O’Shaquie Foster and Ray Ford’s matchup gets dissected after both fighters appeared on the Mr. Versace podcast, and the conversation gets real interesting around who actually has more to lose.The episode also dives into Canelo vs Mbilli and whether this is a dangerous comeback fight for a 35-year-old Canelo coming off surgery, inactivity and a loss to Crawford. Is this still the same Canelo or did Father Time finally pull up?And to close things out… Boots Ennis says Devin Haney ghosted negotiations for a 152-pound fight. Was the weight fair? Did Devin avoid the fight? Or is Boots pushing a narrative?

The Agnew Podcast pulled up to J Prince Boxing Gym and had Shakur Stevenson tap in with us.We started with the PBC card and kept it to the three fights that mattered. Benavidez vs Zurdo was a statement. Benavidez moved up, walked him down, and broke him down. That wasn’t close and he showed he belongs at that weight. Munguia vs Resendiz was a solid win but nothing crazy. He handled business, just didn’t look unbeatable. Duarte vs Fierro is where the convo really started. Duarte got the decision, but it felt debatable and one of those fights people not gonna agree on.Then it was Inoue vs Nakatani. We broke down what went wrong for Nakatani and how much that head clash really mattered, and how close that fight could’ve been if things played out different.From there we got into Bam vs Inoue potentially getting lined up and Shakur spoke on sparring Vargas ahead of that.Then we talked Spence vs Tszyu, the press conference tension, and whether Spence been gone too long or still that guy, plus his comments about Charlo.We also hit on Adrien Broner being on stream with Deen, with Shakur sharing his own experiences around AB and what he thinks about all that.Then we closed it with Crawford being outside more and talking different, and whether he still feels like he has something to prove.

We had 2x world champion Regis Prograis as a special guest at his house for this episode.We started with the Shakur vs Raymond Muratalla situation Robert Garcia saying they ready now Shakur saying keep it at 135 Is he setting the terms or avoiding certain fightsThen we got into Conor Benn signing with Zuffa Boxing Regis broke down what that deal really means and we talked Benn vs Ryan Garcia is that a breakout or a bad look waiting to happenWe moved to Teofimo Lopez questioning Shakur’s confidence is Shakur too safe or just too sharp to take risks Then Teo saying he’s also talked to Zuffa Boxing especially with him moving to 147 What does that move actually look likeNext up Xander Zayas saying he’ll make Boots Ennis uncomfortable Sounds good but can anybody really do that once they’re in thereThen the drama Oscar Duarte calling out Hitchins all week after the fight fallout Hitchins responded but did he clear it up or make it worseWe closed with a big one Manny Pacquiao saying Terence Crawford beats a prime Floyd Mayweather That’s legacy talk so we broke it down

Boots Ennis vs Xander Zayas got real after that 55/45 comment, and people reading it wrong. Boots talking that “bet on yourself” mindset, but Zayas sitting there with two belts like I already did that. He didn’t have to take this fight, and he still did — that’s where the real confidence at. We breaking down that whole exchange and what it actually means going into the fight.Then you got Errol Spence Jr., with Robert Garcia basically saying he might not have anything left. That’s a wild statement, especially knowing what Spence been through. So now it’s really about — is he done, or is this just noise before a comeback?We also getting into Conor Benn vs Regis Prograis, where Benn got the win but didn’t really separate himself, and right after that Prograis called it a career. So we looking at what Benn showed, and what Prograis actually leaves behind as a 2-time champion who never ducked anybody.On top of that, Zuffa Boxing is starting to shake things up by bringing in Edgar Berlanga and Richardson Hitchins. That’s a real shift in boxing, especially with Hitchins being a current champion. This ain’t just signings — this could change how fights get made moving forward.And yeah, we touching on Tyson Fury coming back and calling out Anthony Joshua too. Big win, but not the same killer energy — and now he pushing for that fight heavy. Question is, does it actually happen this time?

We kicked it off with the Keyshawn Davis conversation, why he’s got energy for Abdullah Mason, but it’s real quiet when Andy Cruz comes up. Is that strategy… or something else?Then we got into Keith Thurman vs Sebastian Fundora and kept it real, was that just ring rust, or did Thurman get exposed at the wrong time?After that, we broke down the Boots Ennis vs Xander Zayas announcement… and yeah, we said it:Is Xander being set up as the cost of doing business with this DAZN move?We stayed at 154 and talked Errol Spence vs Tim Tszyu, new trainer, new camp, but is that the right fight to come back to? Or is that playing with fire?And to close it out… Tank gets reinstated as WBA champWhich leaves Kid Austin on the outside looking in. Did Floyd Schofield get snubbed?

On this episode we start with the Kenneth Sims Jr. vs Arnold Barboza Jr. fight. We break down what really happened in the fight, what Kenny had to say afterward, and what it means for the welterweight division moving forward.Then we get into the Jai Opetaia situation with the IBF, the Zuffa card, and why he still fought Brandon Glanton even though the sanctioning body wasn’t backing the fight. Another example of how messy boxing politics can get.We also react to Shakur Stevenson addressing critics who call his style boring. Is it the sweet science at work, or does boxing still need entertainment value for fans to stay engaged?Next we break down the drama surrounding Jaron “Boots” Ennis vs Vergil Ortiz Jr., including the lawsuit involving Golden Boy Promotions, the arbitration situation, and why the fight still hasn’t happened.We also talk about Claressa Shields going viral after debating Rolando “Rolly” Romero on Nightcap with Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, along with her comments on rehydration clauses during her conversation with Max Kellerman.Then we dive into Devin Haney saying Gervonta “Tank” Davis is an underachiever, and whether that statement is fair considering Tank’s journey and the impact he’s had on the sport.Finally, we touch on the Rolly Romero vs Devin Haney negotiations and discuss whether that matchup would actually be entertaining at 147.

We kick things off with Keyshawn Davis going at Richardson Hitchins. Keyshawn basically said Hitchins could’ve missed weight on the second day, lost the belt, and still let the Oscar Duarte fight go on instead of the whole event getting scrapped. In Keyshawn’s eyes, that wasn’t the move. He didn’t sugarcoat it either. So we break that down. Was that real criticism or just emotion talking? Was Hitchins protecting himself or playing it safe?From there we get into Max Kellerman calling for same-day weigh-ins in boxing. Kellerman thinks it would fix extreme weight cuts and clean the sport up. Ced and Q, being professional boxers themselves, strongly disagree. They explain why that extra day to rehydrate isn’t some luxury, it’s necessary. This one turns into fighters versus media and it gets real about who actually understands the grind.Then we move into Conor Benn versus Regis Prograis being officially announced. First off, salute to Regis. Friend of the show, big opportunity, major stage. We’re happy for him. But we keep it honest. How much of a chance does Regis really have at 147 or 150 against Conor Benn? Is the size difference going to matter that much? Or does experience and ring IQ close that gap? We talk it through without disrespect, just real boxing analysis.Next up, Teofimo Lopez says he’s moving up to 147 looking for bigger challenges. But he also made it clear he’s not removing his dad as trainer. He said his father has things to get in order and they’ll be bringing other trainers into camp as well. We talk about whether that’s growth or just loyalty. Teo has always brought people into camp, so is this really different? And is 147 the right move right now?After that we dive into O’Shaquie Foster’s interview on Inside The Ring. Foster addressed the Mike Coppinger article that suggested he was ducking Raymond Ford because he didn’t take a fight on three weeks’ notice. Foster kept it calm and champion-like. He basically said I have leverage. I have a belt. That’s why I don’t have to jump on short notice. We get into that and the bigger conversation about media narratives and how champions are supposed to move.And then we close it out with a heated pound for pound debate. Bill Haney says Devin Haney should be number one over Naoya Inoue. Q and Ced go back and forth heavy on this one. We talk accomplishments, dominance, skill sets, resumes, and what pound for pound is supposed to mean. Is Devin really number one? Or is Inoue’s dominance too strong to deny?

In this episode we break down the Past 4 Kings vs This Era’s 4 debate and ask the real question have today’s stars actually earned that comparison? Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns, and Marvin Hagler fought each other in their primes. Are Devin Haney, Shakur Stevenson, Gervonta Davis, and Teofimo Lopez doing the same, or are we forcing the narrative too early?We also dive into a potential Ryan Garcia vs Shakur Stevenson fight at 144 lbs. Does a 144-pound catchweight favor Ryan’s size and power, or does Shakur’s defense, timing, and ring IQ take over? What would this fight mean for the 140 and 147 pound divisions, and who would really control the pace if they stepped in the ring?Plus, we discuss Devin Haney potentially moving up to 154 to face Xander Zayas. Is Haney chasing a real junior middleweight challenge, or is this a calculated career move? How would his style translate against a natural 154-pound fighter with momentum?This episode covers the 140, 147, and 154 pound divisions, modern legacy talk, and how today’s boxing hierarchy compares to the era of the original 4 Kings.

We kick this episode off having a little fun, cracking jokes about the Jarrell “Big Baby” Miller hair unit situation before locking in and getting straight to business with the Ring 6 DAZN card.The main conversation starts with Shakur Stevenson’s dominant win over Teofimo Lopez. We break down whether Shakur was simply on another level that night or if Teofimo’s corner failed him when it mattered most. We react to Teo’s post-fight interview with The Stomping Ground where he took full responsibility for the loss and admitted he didn’t listen to his corner, then compare that to Teofimo Lopez Sr.’s interview with Seconds Out where he placed the blame back on Teo instead of taking accountability for the lack of clear direction in the corner.That opens up the real debate. Could Teofimo have had a better chance with stronger instructions or was Shakur just that much more skilled? With Shakur making history as a four-division world champion, we talk about what this win really means and where he now belongs on the pound-for-pound list after beating Teo.We also react to Conor Benn being ringside, jumping into the ring after the fight, and later calling the fight boring, which sparks a conversation about expectations, fighting styles, and the gap between casual fans and hardcore boxing fans.From there, we shift to Keyshawn Davis’ comeback fight at 140, his recent run of stoppages against opponents who had never been stopped before, and whether moving up to 147 for a Devin Haney fight makes sense right now. Is it too soon, or is Keyshawn ready for that level already?We talk about Bruce “Shu Shu” Carrington getting buzzed, responding like a true fighter, and closing the show with a beautiful combination to win his first title in dramatic fashion. We also break down Jarrell Miller versus Kingsley Ibeh, where Big Baby was getting worked before the fight took an unexpected turn that had everyone talking.The episode keeps rolling with Xander Zayas’ 12-round win over Abass Barou, making him the youngest unified champion at 154 and proving he can sell, draw a crowd, and back it up in the ring. We also discuss Josh Kelly’s win over Bakhram Murtazaliev, his new deal with Matchroom Boxing, and the contract option that could eventually lead to a fight with Jaron “Boots” Ennis if it makes sense.We close things out by running through the winners from the 2nd Annual Ring Magazine Awards, giving our honest takes.Timecodes0:00 - Intro2:00 - Miller Big Baby loses hair8:30 - Shakur vs Teo recap11:00 - Analyze Teo performance18:30 - Teo’s game plan23:00 - Shakur vs Conor Benn33:11 - Who are the American Boxing Superstars37:00 - Keyshawn dominates Ortiz40:00 - ShuShu becomes world champion45:00 - Xander defeats Abass49:00 - Kelly upsets Bakhram1:00:00 - Ring Ceremonial Awards

Q is out this episode, currently in camp helping Abel Ramos prepare for his upcoming fight against Tamir Smalls, so we jump straight into the biggest stories shaking up boxing right now.We open with Vergil Ortiz Jr. suing Golden Boy Promotions, breaking down what may have gone wrong behind the scenes and why things escalated to this point. We react to Robert Garcia’s comments on BoxingScene, including speculation around Turki Alalshikh and whether the power structure in boxing is quietly shifting.From there, we discuss Brian Norman Jr. appearing on Cigar Talk, where he revealed he’s no longer training with his father. His dad later responded on Mill City Boxing, clearly unhappy and saying he wouldn’t be a second to anyone in the corner. That leads to a real conversation about father-son relationships in boxing which ones worked, which ones didn’t, and why those dynamics often fall apart.Next, we react to Keyshawn Davis telling v Roy Jones Jr. that he was drinking throughout his camp for Edwin De Los Santos, which he says led to missing weight. A former team member disputed those claims, and we break down how Keyshawn comes off in moments like this accountability, honesty, or a cry for attention?Then we get into the clip everyone’s talking about: Claressa Shields allegedly calling into Hood Champion Boxing pretending to be someone else… and outing herself live. We talk about how bad it looks, why it went viral, and why someone of her stature would even make that move.We also touch on rumors of Errol Spence Jr. potentially returning against Tim Tszyu, plus the WBA moving Gervonta Davis into “champion in recess” status and what that means for the lightweight division including who’s now next in line for the belt.We close things out with Zuffa Boxing, reacting to Dana White’s new trailer, breaking down their January 23 card, and then previewing the January 24 DAZN card headlined by Raymond Muratalla vs. Andy Cruz, including undercard breakdowns and predictions.

This episode opens with Gary Antoine Russell picking Teofimo Lopez over Shakur Stevenson and what that choice really says about styles, pressure, and how fighters view risk at the elite level. We break down why Teo might be the pick in that matchup, how Shakur is perceived inside boxing circles, and what that prediction tells us beyond just who wins the fight.From there, the conversation shifts to Jesse “Bam” Rodriguez entering free agency and the comments made by Robert Garcia about Matchroom, belief, and control. We talk through what a new deal could actually look like for Bam, what leverage he really has at this point in his career, and whether this moment is about money, freedom, or finally being valued as a top-tier fighter.We then get into Claressa Shields explaining why she chose to fight Franchon Crews-Dezurn instead of Shadasia Green. That leads to a real back-and-forth on legacy versus danger, timing versus obligation, and how elite fighters decide which risks are worth taking once their résumé is already secure.The discussion continues with Dan Rafael’s tweets about rumored Zuffa Boxing signees and Eddie Hearn’s comments on the contracts being offered. We explore what Zuffa Boxing could realistically become, whether a league-style model can work in boxing, and what fighters stand to gain or lose if this system actually takes off.We close the episode with Keyshawn Davis on Inside the Ring with Max Kellerman, where talk of a Shakur Stevenson fight turns into conversation about moving up to 147. We break down whether Keyshawn is seriously planning a move to welterweight, if the weight change makes sense, or if that answer was simply a way to sidestep a question fans keep pressing.

This episode opens with a breakdown of Jake Paul vs Anthony Joshua, starting with the undercard and moving into the main event. We talk about what really happened in the ring, how much credit Anthony Joshua deserves for the stoppage, and whether the loss actually hurts Jake Paul’s stock and drawing power.We also run through Jake Paul’s purses throughout his boxing career, looking at how much money he’s generated, how the business model has evolved, and whether this lane is still sustainable.The conversation then shifts to Terence Crawford’s retirement, which reopened debate about how greatness should be judged in boxing. Crawford retired undefeated and 3x undisputed after beating the top man in his division, raising the uncomfortable question: is that enough? We examine whether legacy is built through long reigns and title defenses, or by beating the best and moving on.We dive into Crawford’s career being built on climbing, not sitting, why that approach challenges traditional boxing standards, and why his résumé still sparks debate. A rapid-fire comparison to Hall of Fame greats turns the discussion up.The episode also covers Oscar De La Hoya’s criticism of Crawford’s résumé, the pushback from Bernie the Boxer on the Mill City Podcast, and a breakdown of Bill Haney’s claim that Team Haney has “sent everyone an offer.” We explain why offers don’t always mean negotiations and why in boxing, optics aren’t the same as signed contracts.

We open with hometown pride as O’Shaquie “Shock” Foster dominates Stephen “Scooter” Fulton. We break down Fulton missing weight at 130, the WBC switching the bout to a WBC Interim Lightweight Title (135) fight, and how the buildup disrespected Shock before he delivered a masterclass.Next, we dig into the week’s biggest shocker: Janibek Alimkhanuly failing a VADA test, forcing Erislandy Lara to face a late replacement instead of unifying the middleweight titles. We cover what Janibek tested positive for and how this impacts the middleweight division going forward.We recap the entire Isaac “Pitbull” Cruz vs Lamont Roach Jr card, the knockdown, the point deduction, and the controversial draw that has fans debating who really won and whether the judges got it wrong.Then we break down Frank Martin calling out Richardson Hitchins at 140 and what that matchup would mean for the super-lightweight division.We also hit the politics of boxing: Terence Crawford stripped by the WBC, his viral IG Live reaction, Errol Spence’s comments, and Floyd Mayweather’s long-standing criticism of sanctioning bodies and championship belts.We close with the massive announcement: Teófimo López vs Shakur Stevenson is officially set, and we dive into the styles, stakes, and early reactions to one of the biggest fights in boxing.