Ep16: Measuring Justice: Redefining Success in Reform with Lisa Daugaard

About this episode

Eric and Amy Barden discuss justice reform and community safety with Lisa Daugaard, focusing on measuring success in diversion programs.

In this continuation of their conversation with MacArthur Fellow and justice reform leader Lisa Daugaard, Eric and Amy Barden explore how communities can define—and measure—real success in diversion and public safety. Lisa discusses what’s working, what’s changing, and how the Purpose Dignity Action and LEAD programs continue to evolve through constant learning and collaboration. Together, they examine how shifting from punishment to care can create safer, more resilient communities—and what it takes to prove that change truly works.

People in this episode

Hosts: Amy Barden, Eric

Guest: Lisa Daugaard

Topics covered

• justice reform
• public safety
• community care
• diversion programs

Keywords

• Purpose Dignity Action
• LEAD programs
• community resilience

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: Measuring Justice: Redefining Success in Reform

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