
Both Sides of the Aisle
by Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall
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Attempted assassination, gerrymandering, and Utah party conventions
May 1, 2026
25m 30s
Global economic shocks, measles, and Utah's congressional campaigns
Apr 23, 2026
25m 14s
Naval blockades, Pope Leo, and Utah congressional races
Apr 16, 2026
25m 22s
Iran ceasefire, 25th Amendment, and the next US attorney general
Apr 9, 2026
25m 50s
Vote by mail, Iran war address, and the U.S. Forest Service in Utah
Apr 2, 2026
25m 14s
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| Date | Episode | Description | Length | ||||||
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| 5/1/26 | Attempted assassination, gerrymandering, and Utah party conventions | Our hosts discuss the failed assassination attempt on President Trump at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, the Democratic gerrymander of Virginia, and the results from the political party conventions in Utah. | 25m 30s | ||||||
| 4/23/26 | Global economic shocks, measles, and Utah's congressional campaigns | Our hosts discuss Congress' rejection of a war powers resolution on Iran, growing transmission rates of measles in Utah, and how past online comments may derail Utah Sen. Nate Blouin's campaign for Congress. | 25m 14s | ||||||
| 4/16/26 | Naval blockades, Pope Leo, and Utah congressional races | Our hosts discuss the U.S. Navy beginning patrols in the Strait of Hormuz, President Trump's online fight with Pope Leo XIV, and updates from Utah's congressional campaigns. | 25m 22s | ||||||
| 4/9/26 | Iran ceasefire, 25th Amendment, and the next US attorney general | Our hosts discuss the fragile U.S.-Iran ceasefire, calls for invoking the 25th Amendment, and whether Sen. Mike Lee will be picked as U.S. attorney general. | 25m 50s | ||||||
| 4/2/26 | Vote by mail, Iran war address, and the U.S. Forest Service in Utah | Our hosts discuss the Supreme Court hearing oral argument on birthright citizenship, President Trump's Iran war address to the nation, and the judge halting Trump's White House ballroom construction. | 25m 14s | ||||||
| 3/26/26 | Global price hikes, Utah voter data, and the future of Prop 4 | Our hosts discuss how war in the Middle East is driving up fuel and fertilizer prices, airport delays across the country, and the withdrawal of signatures from the Prop 4 repeal effort. | 25m 42s | ||||||
| 3/19/26 | The Strait of Hormuz, the SAVE Act, and ICE in SLC | Our hosts discuss Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz, the SAVE Act in the Senate, and ICE's purchase of a warehouse in Salt Lake City. | 25m 43s | ||||||
| 3/12/26 | War with Iran and the end of Utah's 2026 legislative session | Our hosts discuss the escalating war in the Middle East, its political impact in the U.S., and what bills the Utah Legislature passed in the 2026 general session. | 25m 23s | ||||||
| 3/6/26 | Utah State Auditor Tina Cannon | Shireen and John sit down with Utah's first female state auditor to discuss her political principles, the work of the auditor's office, and how to increase transparency in local and state government. | 25m 44s | ||||||
| 2/26/26 | Iran, Board of Peace, tariff ruling, and Prop 4 repeal efforts | Our hosts discuss the U.S.-Iran nuclear talks, the increase in U.S. forces around Iran, President Trump's Board of Peace, and the Supreme Court's ruling on Trump's tariff powers. | 25m 40s | ||||||
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| 2/19/26 | Utah's 2027 budget recommendations with Sophia DiCaro | Shireen Ghorbani sits down with Sophia DiCaro to discuss the governor's proposals for Utah's 2027 budget. | 25m 50s | ||||||
| 2/12/26 | Winter Olympics, Super Bowl halftime, and Utah Supreme Court expansion | Our hosts discuss the Olympics, the Super Bowl, the University of Utah’s new $4.5 million statue, data centers, and the expansion of the Utah Supreme Court. | 25m 51s | ||||||
| 2/6/26 | Steve Waldrip, senior advisor for housing strategy and innovation | Natalie and Shireen sit down with the senior advisor on housing for Gov. Cox to discuss how the state hopes to house more Utahns. | 25m 53s | ||||||
| 1/30/26 | Erosion of global institutions, DHS, and the State of the State | Our hosts discuss the fraying of world order, problems with the Department of Homeland Security, and whether U.S. citizens' rights are still unalienable after 250 years. | 25m 41s | ||||||
| 1/23/26 | President Trump's first year and the 2026 Utah Legislative Session | Our hosts discuss their biggest surprises in the first year since Trump's inauguration, Trump's letter to the Norwegian prime minister, and the start of the Utah legislative session. | 25m 40s | ||||||
| 1/15/26 | Trump's foreign policy and the fatal Minnesota ICE shooting | Our hosts discuss President Trump's agenda in Iran, Cuba, and Venezuela, and the circumstances that led to an ICE agent killing a Minnesota woman. | 25m 53s | ||||||
| 1/8/26 | Venezuela, the 'Donroe Doctrine,' and the new year ahead | Our hosts discuss the U.S. removal of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro and what this means for the future of both countries. | 25m 22s | ||||||
| 1/2/26 | Utah Gov. Gary Herbert | Shireen and Natalie chat with the former Utah governor about his life, lessons from his time in politics, and why he believes Utah is an example for the nation. | 25m 50s | ||||||
| 12/25/25 | Utah's top challenges and opportunities | Our hosts discuss the most significant challenges and opportunities facing the state of Utah at the close of 2025. | 25m 20s | ||||||
| 12/18/25 | Utah Reps. Tyler Clancy and Grant Miller | Shireen Ghorbani is joined by Utah Reps. Tyler Clancy and Grant Miller for an in-depth discussion of the contributors and potential solutions to homelessness. | 25m 53s | ||||||
| 12/11/25 | Utah Rep. Doug Owens | Shireen and Natalie talk to Utah Rep. Doug Owens about bipartisan congressional representation, the cascading benefits of Utah's public lands, and the necessary steps to save the Great Salt Lake. | 25m 53s | ||||||
| 12/4/25 | Trump administration controversies, future U.S. representation, and the 2034 Olympics | Our hosts discuss recent controversial actions taken by the Trump administration, how current members of Congress will adapt to the new Utah maps, and the new Utah branding of the 2034 Olympic Games. | 25m 50s | ||||||
| 11/20/25 | Shutdown post-mortem, Epstein's emails, and the future population of Utah | Our hosts discuss the longest U.S. government shutdown in history, the political fallout from Jeffrey Epstein's emails, and the controversy brewing over cloud seeding. | 25m 35s | ||||||
| 11/13/25 | New congressional districts and the Utah Legislature's appeal prospect | Our hosts discuss the potential constitutional crisis and political opportunities stemming from Judge Gibson's Nov. 10th ruling that tossed the Legislature's preferred map out on grounds of 'extreme' gerrymander. | 25m 53s | ||||||
| 11/6/25 | 2025 election results, tariffs, and detention facilities coming to Utah | Our hosts discuss the politics of the election day victors, SCOTUS hearing a case concerning the Trump tariff regime, and predict when the federal government shutdown will come to an end. | 25m 52s | ||||||
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