Racist Maps Make Racist Reps: Karen Ziegler on Speaking Truth to Power Pt. 2

Racist Maps Make Racist Reps: Karen Ziegler on Speaking Truth to Power Pt. 2

From Built By Us by Democracy North Carolina

December 10, 2025 · 38 min · Season 5 · Episode 11

About this episode

Karen Ziegler discusses the implications of gerrymandering in North Carolina and its impact on Black representation in Congress.

In Part 2 of our conversation with Democracy Out Loud co-founder Karen Ziegler, we delve deeper into the fight against gerrymandering in North Carolina and what's truly at stake for CD1, the historic Black Belt district that encompasses every Black-majority county in the state. Karen breaks down how North Carolina votes 50-50 but ends up with deeply unequal representation, and why the attempt to eliminate Black representation in Congress is not just unconstitutional but morally unconscionable...

People in this episode

Guest: Karen Ziegler

Topics covered

  • gerrymandering
  • North Carolina
  • Black representation
  • politics

Keywords

  • CD1
  • Black-majority counties
  • representation
  • Democracy Out Loud

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: Speaking Truth to Power

Places: North Carolina, CD1, Black Belt

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