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| 5/6/26 | The Privacy Commissioner takes us through the new code to to give children greater control over their data and how this could open the door for less surveillance for all of us. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: What’s behind the cancellation of RightsCon? Why did Jack Dorsey lay off 40 per cent of his business? And who wins when two tech overlords go to court? For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/ | 1h 00m 23s | |||||||
| 4/30/26 | The Labor MP and former Industry Minister on how the power of the global tech giants and why tech sovereignty is non-negotiable. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: Who is enabling the Nudify apps? Is there a world beyond the US AI stack? And what on earth is Palintir CEO Alex Karp smoking? For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/ | 1h 05m 26s | |||||||
| 4/22/26 | The Sizzle editor (and freshly minted ABC AI reporter) joins us to make sense of the spate of attacks on CEO leaders. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: What role should AI play in Aged Care? Is all the AI Bubble talk just hot air? And how to get into a slinging match with a chat bot? For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/ | 1h 00m 18s | |||||||
| 4/14/26 | On this week's Burning Platforms, Australia’s leading AI scientist, Prof Toby Walsh, takes us through the failing efforts to place limits around the automation of military conflict. Regular panelists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: Sam Altman’s moments of truth Anthropic’s Maven’s Vuln-pocalypse and the AI Bubble's Overton Window For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/ | 1h 04m 12s | |||||||
| 4/8/26 | The ACTU’s Assistant Secretary takes us through the multiple challenges AI poses workers and the pressure points where unions are pushing back. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: Anthropic’s pitch to Canberra slop-aganda in the Iranian war and a new platform to Surf the fedi-verse For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/ | 1h 02m 12s | |||||||
| 4/1/26 | The founder of Teach Us Consent on her campaign to give young people control over their social media feeds. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Per Capita’s Peter Lewis and Cam Wilson from The Sizzle also delve into: The release of a new privacy code for children Anthropic’s push into Australia and Bernie Sanders' new bill for a moratorium on data centres For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/ | 1h 02m 12s | |||||||
| 3/25/26 | The Host of the ‘Computer Says Maybe’ podcast joins us to give a global take on the power and influence of Big Tech. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: the federal government’s green data centre edict industry’s latest pitch to mine creative data and Open AI’s pivot away from consumer products For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/ | 1h 01m 53s | |||||||
| 3/17/26 | The Director of QUT’S Digital Media Research Centre outlines how different chatbots take users down different wormholes when they research conspiracy theories. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea and The Sizzle’s Cam Wilson also dig into: How AI is creating new modes of death and destruction in Iran Why Pornhub is pulling out of Australia and Atlassian’s ironic jobs purge For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/ | 1h 02m 37s | |||||||
| 3/10/26 | The former Chief Scientist outlines his new venture, ‘Proudly Human to allow creators to verify their work in the ocean of slop. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: The Australian Government’s defence deals with Palantir Canadian PM Mark Carney’s call for a Middle Powers LLM and whether agentic AI will eat the internet Visit www.percapita.org.au for more on our research and events. Per Capita's podcasts are recorded and produced on Wurundjeri land. | 1h 02m 56s | |||||||
| 3/4/26 | The Burning Platforms panel kick around the carcass of this week when the White House went to war with AI, bosses found new ways to snoop on workers, and the market was moved by a bit of fan fiction. Per Capita’s Peter Lewis joins Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and The Sizzle’s Cam Wilson try to make sense of the madness. And some reading to get you warmed up: Casey Newton - What is OpenAI going to do when the truth comes out?HTI - ‘Surveillance Creep’ Citrini - The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis Dan Kagan-Kans - The Left is missing Out on AI Brian Merchant - ‘Actually the Left is Winning the AI Debate' | 56m 42s | |||||||
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| 2/24/26 | On this week's episode of Burning Platforms, the team look at the AI Impact Summit in Delhi with first-hand accounts from UTS’s Human Technology Institute co-director and regular panelist Digital Rights Chair Lizzie O’Shea. They join Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis to also discuss: Mark Zuckerberg’s day in court World-leading workplace laws in NSW and the SASSopcolypse. Join us in discussing the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit: https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome Visit www.percapita.org.au for more on of the Centre of the Public Square's research and events. Per Capita's podcasts are produced on Wurundjeri land. | 1h 01m 01s | |||||||
| 2/3/26 | Governments may campaign in poetry and govern in prose, but what about the engineering that keeps our democracy flowing? The pioneer of public innovation and Professor of Collective Intelligence at University College London, Sir Geoff Mulgan, believes it’s time to get the boring bits right. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: Anthropic CEO Dario Ameida’s summer essay - https://darioamodei.com/essay/the-adolescence-of-technology Should universities accept Big Tech dollars - https://www.science.org/content/article/nearly-third-social-media-research-has-undisclosed-ties-industry-preprint-claims and South Korea’s new AI Basic Act - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/29/south-korea-world-first-ai-regulation-laws. If you want to hear more from Sir Geoff he will be speaking in Sydney on Feburary 25 https://anzsog.edu.au/events-connection/events/what-next-for-public-innovation-with-geoff-mulgan Visit www.percapita.org.au for more on our research and events. Per Capita's podcasts are recorded and produced on Wurundjeri land. | 1h 01m 28s | |||||||
| 1/27/26 | Burning Platforms is BACK for 2026. The panels returns this week to unpack the existential risks AI presents with the Good Ancestors CEO, Greg Sadler. Spoiler: it's not just AGI. With our regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis, the panel also discuss: Grok’s wild (and gross) summer ChatGTP’s foray into health and Bandcamp’s AI pledge Check our Good Ancestors: https://www.goodancestors.org.au/ Join us in discussing the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit: https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome Help the Centre of the Public Square fund its research into AI and responsible technology - donate to Per Capita today: https://percapita.org.au/donate/ | 1h 05m 03s | |||||||
| 12/16/25 | As 2025 crashes out we survey the highs and lows of the year in tech with long-time platform burner Human Technology Institute co-director Ed Santow. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis discuss: the Government’s AI Plan the Social Media Ban and what to read over summer Join us in discussing the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit: https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome Help the Centre of the Public Square fund its research into AI and responsible technology - donate to Per Capita today: https://percapita.org.au/donate/ | 1h 04m 17s | |||||||
| 11/26/25 | While the vested interests wrestle with the intricacies of AI regulation, are community library conversations the best bet for shaping our tech future? On this week's episode of Burning Platforms, we meet the academic who is fighting the algorithm with words. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis will also discuss: Meta’s latest Anti-Trust win The News Media Bargaining Incentive The case for an "AI Slop" Tax Book a ticket for Cory’s late night show: https://events.humanitix.com/system-error-late-night-show Read Lizzie’s Baffler piece: https://thebaffler.com/latest/antitrust-issues-oshea Join us in discussing the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit: https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome | 1h 03m 49s | |||||||
| 11/17/25 | How much energy will AI really burn? Climate writer and activist Ketan Joshi joins Burning Platforms to chat AI and Climate: what we know, what we don’t know and what data centres have to do with yogurt tubs. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: Meta’s sloppy business model Apple’s arranged AI marriage with Google The Federal Government’s AI mission To find out more about Ketan’s work, go to: https://ketanjoshi.co/blog/ To discuss the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit - https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome | 1h 08m 45s | |||||||
| 10/28/25 | Is Big Tech’s domination of AI inevitable or are there different ways of organising our data to shift the power the dynamic? We discuss the RadicalXChange project with its new director, Jess Scully. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: Government blocks text and data mining Human Rights over our brain waves Sam Altman’s wank-bot To find out more about RadicalxChange go to: https://www.radicalxchange.org/ To discuss the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit - https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome Visit www.percapita.org.au for more on our research and events.Per Capita's podcasts are recorded and produced on Wurundjeri land. | 1h 04m 48s | |||||||
| 10/21/25 | AI is transforming our world at rapid speed, raising urgent questions about who benefits, who loses, and how we keep control of the future. Panellists from the Burning Platforms podcast and guests, explore the promises and pitfalls of AI - and what’s at stake for all Australians. Panellists include: Lizzie O’Shea: Human Rights Lawyer & Chairperson, Digital Rights Watch Peter Lewis: Executive Director, Essential Media & Fellow, Per Capita Dan Stinton: CEO and Managing Director, Healthengine Rikki Hendon: Secretary of Unions WA Kate Chaney MP: Federal Member for Curtin While the boosters of AI are rushing to transform the world, citizens are being left in the slipstream, with little chance to influence how this new technology takes shape. AI systems are built by harvesting the ideas and creations of others, often without consent, and are already eroding jobs and reshaping culture on the promise of future productivity. As the Luddites taught us, the way we adopt technology will be critical to whether it improves people’s lives or cuts a swathe through jobs for the benefit of the few. Many Australians perceive more risk than upside in this new technology, so why is it being pushed so hard, with so few guardrails or controls in place? This event is hosted by Digital Rights Watch with support from The Minderoo Foundation. | 1h 09m 15s | |||||||
| 10/7/25 | Is the rise of AI inevitable or just the latest cycle of hype for a sector that thrives on the vibes? The author of “Resisting AI’, Professor Dan McQuillan, joins the show to argue for a more fundamental response to Big Tech. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: the launch of AI’s new Sora video product the push to sell advertising inside GPTs and how consultants are embracing work slop Join us for our live shows in capital cities around Australia Adelaide: https://shorturl.at/ojQRX Perth: events.humanitix.com/democracy-perth Brisbane: events.humanitix.com/democracy-brisbane Sydney: events.humanitix.com/democracy-sydney Melbourne events.humanitix.com/democracy-melbourne To discuss the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit - https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome | 1h 05m 48s | |||||||
| 9/29/25 | The co-author of ‘Conspiracy Nation’ takes us on his journey into the world of anti-vaxxers, wellness influencers and sovereign citizens. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: The call for AI Red Lines The rise of Work Slop And Murdoch’s Tik-Tok play. In October we will beholding a series of live shows in capital cities and would love you to come along. Adelaide: https://shorturl.at/ojQRX Perth: events.humanitix.com/democracy-perth Brisbane: events.humanitix.com/democracy-brisbane Sydney: events.humanitix.com/democracy-sydney Melbourne: events.humanitix.com/democracy-melbourne To discuss the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit - https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome | 1h 08m 53s | |||||||
| 9/8/25 | The tech industry is pitching data mining and new infrastructure as the key to national prosperity. But will it deliver? And if so, for whom? Tech Council of Australia CEO, Damian Kassabgi joins regular panelists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis for the latest episode of Burning Platforms. The show also covers: fresh concerns over age verification the creepy rise of intimate AI companions And Nobel Prize winner Maria Ressa’s address to the National Press Club To discuss the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit - https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome | 1h 05m 58s | |||||||
| 8/17/25 | “I’m concerned that AI and big tech – well, big tech with AI – has gone into a full-court press… particularly on the federal system...I’m concerned that without thinking it through clearly enough, policy makers won’t essentially subject the slogans to sufficient scrutiny.” This week on Burning Platforms, we recorded our special briefing for cultural creators and those who value their work to discuss Big Tech’s push to mine our culture. Our panel discusses: How AI large language models have been built on the theft of the work of musicians, writers journalists and artists. What the productivity Commission’s proposal to give AI companies a ‘right to mine data’ will do to Australian performers How creatives and citizens can resist the attacks from AI Featuring: AI expert and author Professor Toby Walsh Midnight Oil front man Peter Garrett Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea Australian Writers Guild CEO Claire Pullen To discuss the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit - https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome | 58m 56s | |||||||
| 8/6/25 | New Federal industry and science minister Tim Ayres shares his take on industry policy, AI's opportunities and risks, and how we could steer through the latest wave of tech change. With regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton, and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis To discuss the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit - https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome | 52m 05s | |||||||
| 7/30/25 | Can Australia play a leading role in imagining a tech future that isn’t controlled by either the US or China?Johanna Weaver from the Tech Policy Design Institute expands on her recent essay ‘System Update - An Australian-led new deal for tech’ - https://www.australianforeignaffairs.com/essay/2025/06/tech-wars Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis will also discuss: what the new Federal Parliament means for tech how Cloudflare could rewrite the game in copyright and the rise of Satanic Chat Bots To discuss the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit - https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome | 1h 02m 33s | |||||||
| 7/16/25 | The Large Language Models are powered by stolen data but there are new and innovative ways to make the thieves pay. Professor Toby Walsh explains the tech-driven resistance to Big AI from data poisoning to responsible cloud computing. With panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Editor of the Sizzle Cam Wilson, and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis we also discuss: Qantas’ big data hack Victoria’s foray into AI policing and how Velvet Sunset’s fake music is bringing tears to Peter’s eyes To discuss the issues raised in this episode join us in the Democracy Sandpit - https://civility.bettermode.io/welcome | 1h 04m 22s | |||||||
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