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Navigating Shrinking Seat Counts: How AI Pressures MSP Revenue Streams and Security Operations
Jun 25, 2026
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Memory Inflation: Why All-Inclusive MSP Hardware Pricing Is No Longer Sustainable
Jun 24, 2026
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MSPs Face New Risk: Customer Loyalty Drops When AI Replaces Human Interactio
Jun 23, 2026
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Operational Maturity vs. Service Uniformity: Insights from Joshua Liberman’s Transition
Jun 22, 2026
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AI Agents Outnumber IT Admins: Credential Sprawl and Network Risks with Chris Boehm
Jun 19, 2026
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| 6/25/26 | ![]() Navigating Shrinking Seat Counts: How AI Pressures MSP Revenue Streams and Security Operations | The dominant structural shift highlighted is margin pressure and business model viability for MSPs due to workforce reduction driven by AI automation. This is exemplified by Microsoft’s introduction of Agent365—an enterprise product licensing AI agents rather than human users—and industry reports forecasting that 30–50% of white-collar jobs may be replaced by AI technologies, according to publication summaries referenced during discussion. The shift fundamentally threatens the per-seat managed services pricing model that has anchored MSP revenue. Evidence of mounting financial risk is provided by the scenario where clients may halve their seat counts within a two-to-three-year window. As stated, this adjustment would immediately cut monthly recurring revenue (MMR) for MSPs. The discussion connects this trend to Microsoft’s evolving licensing model and notes an industry-wide consensus reflected in a Capterra survey, which found all surveyed MSPs in 2024 facing significant increases in local competition. The implication is that margin pressure from both automation and intensifying competition is occurring simultaneously. Additional developments reinforce the risks to stability. Security complexity and associated liability are increasing, as non-specialist teams—originally tasked with legacy IT functions—are now expected to take responsibility for security operations without adequate expertise. This burden is heightened by the emergence of unmanaged AI adoption at client organizations, creating new avenues for data exposure and regulatory risk. Surveyed business owners are considering exit or consolidation, citing inability or unwillingness to restructure business models to accommodate these changes. Peer group participation is recognized as widespread but not a direct countermeasure to these structural challenges. For MSPs and IT service providers, the practical implications are clear: reliance on the per-seat model is a growing contract risk, with revenue volatility linked to workforce automation outpacing both the speed of traditional service adaptation and client technology adoption. Accountabilities around AI risk, security governance, and compliance are expanding—often without a corresponding increase in compensable scope or staff capability. Operators must assess vendor dependency (especially in rapidly shifting software licensing models), realign service portfolios towards advisory, compliance, and security, and prepare for sustained market turbulence marked by shrinking margins and rising operational complexity. Supported by: Small Biz Thoughts Community Sign up for the SMB Online Conference: www.smbonlineconference.com 💼 All Our SponsorsSupport the vendors who support the show:👉 https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ 🚀 Join Business of Tech PlusGet exclusive access to investigative reports, vendor analysis, leadership briefings, and more.👉 https://businessof.tech/plus 🎧 Subscribe to the Business of TechWant the show on your favorite podcast app or prefer the written versions of each story?📲 https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe 📰 Story Links & SourcesLooking for the links from today’s stories?Every episode script — with full source links — is posted at:🌐 https://www.businessof.tech 🎙 Want to Be a Guest?Pitch your story or appear on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights:💬 https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech 🔗 Follow Business of Tech LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradioBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.techInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 6/24/26 | ![]() Memory Inflation: Why All-Inclusive MSP Hardware Pricing Is No Longer Sustainable | A structural repricing of memory and silicon components is forcing a shift in the economics of hardware resale for managed service providers (MSPs) and IT service providers. This shift is driven by concentrated demand for memory components from AI infrastructure build-outs, as evidenced by data from IDC and remarks from companies including Apple, Micron, SK Hynix, and Samsung. The episode highlights that memory costs have quadrupled in a year, and that both endpoint devices and servers are experiencing durable price inflation due to component scarcity and intensified competition for supply. The most consequential development cited is Apple’s acknowledgment—confirmed by Tim Cook to the Wall Street Journal—that device price increases are now “unavoidable” because the cost of memory can no longer be absorbed. Memory manufacturers’ share prices rallied on this signal, reinforcing an investor consensus that higher component costs will persist. IDC data showed AI-focused, non-x86 servers using Nvidia’s ARM chips generated $58.7 billion—or nearly 48% of all server revenue—up 107% year over year, while x86 server revenue declined due to DRAM and NAND shortages. This dynamic indicates that AI infrastructure is bidding up component costs at the expense of standard business hardware. Secondary developments further reinforce this mechanism. The market’s response to U.S. government announcements regarding Intel chip capacity expansion demonstrates that relief from the silicon crunch remains years away, not months. Channel partners—according to industry reporting—were already pivoting from hardware resale to services prior to these price shocks, with thinning hardware margins preceding the current pressure. The combination of fixed-fee hardware contracts and rising component costs now places providers in a position where they are “short silicon,” having unknowingly absorbed inflation risk they cannot pass on under existing contractual terms. For MSPs and IT leaders, the principal operational implications center on contract structure, exposure to component price volatility, and diminished hardware margins. Providers with fixed monthly agreements or hardware-as-a-service contracts based on last year’s component costs are at an increasing risk of margin erosion, as their ability to reprice is contractually limited. Practical mitigation steps include auditing all fixed-fee agreements for exposure, amending contracts to include component index or price adjustment clauses, and separating hardware as a transparent, pass-through line item. Failing to adapt contract terms or refresh timing may compound both financial risk and the security profile of client endpoints. 00:00 Not the Tokens 03:31 An Auction for the Parts 05:46 Short Silicon 07:44 Why Do We Care? Supported by: Pax8 ScalePad Sign up for the SMB Online Conference: www.smbonlineconference.com 💼 All Our SponsorsSupport the vendors who support the show:👉 https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ 🚀 Join Business of Tech PlusGet exclusive access to investigative reports, vendor analysis, leadership briefings, and more.👉 https://businessof.tech/plus 🎧 Subscribe to the Business of TechWant the show on your favorite podcast app or prefer the written versions of each story?📲 https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe 📰 Story Links & SourcesLooking for the links from today’s stories?Every episode script — with full source links — is posted at:🌐 https://www.businessof.tech 🎙 Want to Be a Guest?Pitch your story or appear on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights:💬 https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech 🔗 Follow Business of Tech LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradioBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.techInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 6/23/26 | ![]() MSPs Face New Risk: Customer Loyalty Drops When AI Replaces Human Interactio | The episode reveals a structural shift where “AI powered” has moved from a selling point to a source of liability and customer distrust. Surveys from WordPress VIP, the Pew Research Center, and Carnegie Mellon University indicate that both consumers and professionals increasingly see visible AI in products and services as a negative attribute, eroding trust rather than adding perceived value. This trend impacts MSPs directly, as their role in advising clients on technology adoption now brings increased accountability for customer experience outcomes tied to AI-driven automation. According to a WordPress VIP survey, 60% of US consumers are deterred by the term “AI” in brand marketing, and 86% do not fully trust AI-delivered information, preferring original sources. The Pew Research Center found that, while 49% of US adults now use AI chatbots, 40% believe AI will worsen society and 67% distrust regulatory oversight. A Carnegie Mellon study of working visual artists reported 99% disapproving of generative AI and 85% refusing to use it. These quantified findings underscore a broad disconnect between AI adoption and public trust. Additional research reinforces this skepticism and clarifies operational risks. AnswerConnect’s survey of 6,000 consumers across the US, UK, and Canada found that 85% prefer human service over bot interactions, 57% lose trust in brands using AI for support, and 73% exhibit greater loyalty to businesses maintaining human involvement. Data from Fractal and Search Engine Land shows that the share of consumers who say heavy AI use would decrease their trust in a brand nearly doubled in a year, rising from 20% to 39%. Furthermore, 84% desire businesses to disclose AI use, yet only 20% of businesses consistently do so. These patterns suggest tangible declines in customer loyalty and increased expectation for transparency surrounding AI deployment. For MSPs and IT service providers, visible AI in customer-facing areas introduces pricing risk and trust liabilities. Delegating key customer interactions to AI without clear disclosure can erode brand equity and disrupt client retention metrics. The operational recommendation is to segment human-in-the-loop service as the standard premium offering, with fully automated AI positioned as a disclosed, lower-tier alternative. Writing these distinctions explicitly into contracts and statements of work—pairing them with actual client retention data—enables more defensible pricing and clarifies accountability, helping avoid unintended consequences tied to silent automation. 00:00 The Turn-Off 03:39 Reading the Motive 05:25 The Loyalty Account 08:35 Why Do We Care? Supported by: Pax8 ScalePad Sign up for the SMB Online Conference: www.smbonlineconference.com 💼 All Our SponsorsSupport the vendors who support the show:👉 https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ 🚀 Join Business of Tech PlusGet exclusive access to investigative reports, vendor analysis, leadership briefings, and more.👉 https://businessof.tech/plus 🎧 Subscribe to the Business of TechWant the show on your favorite podcast app or prefer the written versions of each story?📲 https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe 📰 Story Links & SourcesLooking for the links from today’s stories?Every episode script — with full source links — is posted at:🌐 https://www.businessof.tech 🎙 Want to Be a Guest?Pitch your story or appear on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights:💬 https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech 🔗 Follow Business of Tech LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradioBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.techInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 6/22/26 | ![]() Operational Maturity vs. Service Uniformity: Insights from Joshua Liberman’s Transition | Vendor channel consolidation, specifically through peer and family-owned acquisitions, is driving a fundamental shift in the operational landscape for MSPs. This episode analyzes the case of NetSciences, an MSP based in New Mexico, which was acquired by Qual IT—a family-owned operator with over two decades in the space. The MSP market now includes multiple buyer categories: peer acquisitions, roll-ups, and private equity (PE) players, each with distinct approaches to valuation, integration, and operational continuity. The transition of NetSciences to Qual IT illustrates that smaller MSPs increasingly face decisions about optimal sale pathways. According to Joshua Liberman, roll-up buyers and PE investors often introduce rapid shifts in deal terms and operational models, with PE offers described as subject to abrupt valuation changes (drops up to 67% noted by Liberman), creating a higher risk profile for sellers seeking stability and legacy preservation. By contrast, the peer acquisition model (as executed through platforms such as ASCII’s peer-to-peer review process) is allowing some MSPs to complete sales with greater continuity and cultural alignment, though post-sale integration often defaults to the acquirer’s systems and standards rather than blending best practices. Secondary developments reinforcing this shift include persistent market focus on monthly recurring revenue (MRR) metrics and the operational tradeoffs of pursuing high MRR percentages. Liberman maintained a 50–60% MRR intentionally, arguing that chasing 80%+ MRR metrics can distort business health and does not universally suit all MSP models. Discussion of cybersecurity underscores the need to reposition technical services as business outcomes—security is described as foundational, permeating every operational and client decision, yet is often misunderstood or negotiated away to the detriment of risk posture. Operationally, these trends imply that MSPs must be highly selective about both client and acquirer fit, balancing growth trajectories against risk aggregation and cultural alignment. Attempts to homogenize client environments and enforce consistent security baselines are necessary but limit scale and acquisition appeal. Failure to assess how integration will shift toolsets, processes, and staff autonomy can result in loss of operational maturity and control post-sale. Additionally, the unchecked adoption of tools such as AI—without oversight or documented process—exemplifies emerging areas of governance risk that technology leaders cannot overlook. Supported by: ScalePadTimeZest Sign up for the SMB Online Conference: www.smbonlineconference.com 💼 All Our SponsorsSupport the vendors who support the show:👉 https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ 🚀 Join Business of Tech PlusGet exclusive access to investigative reports, vendor analysis, leadership briefings, and more.👉 https://businessof.tech/plus 🎧 Subscribe to the Business of TechWant the show on your favorite podcast app or prefer the written versions of each story?📲 https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe 📰 Story Links & SourcesLooking for the links from today’s stories?Every episode script — with full source links — is posted at:🌐 https://www.businessof.tech 🎙 Want to Be a Guest?Pitch your story or appear on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights:💬 https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech 🔗 Follow Business of Tech LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradioBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.techInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 6/19/26 | ![]() AI Agents Outnumber IT Admins: Credential Sprawl and Network Risks with Chris Boehm | The episode highlights a structural shift in IT and security governance driven by the proliferation of autonomous AI agents inside enterprise environments. This shift is characterized by a mismatch between the visibility and control frameworks that organizations possess versus the scale and autonomy of AI deployments. Microsoft’s introduction of Agent365—a control plane designed for agent governance—and policy statements from its security leadership illustrate the growing gap between the number of AI agents and the traditional IT administrators tasked with managing them, raising questions about the effectiveness and scalability of legacy governance mechanisms. A consequential development described is the growing risk stemming from AI agents operating with inherited credentials and unrestricted lateral access, often without comprehensive oversight or tracking. Both Microsoft and Zero Networks are referenced as addressing this problem but propose different architectural solutions. Microsoft’s model emphasizes governance at the identity and endpoint layers, exemplified by Agent365, while Zero Networks promotes network-layer enforcement. The latter approach seeks to restrict lateral movement before it leads to a breach. Data points referenced include insider reports of numerous agents running undetected in enterprise workflows, and observations that most organizations lack accurate inventories or controls corresponding to their AI agent exposure. Supporting stories reinforce the structural shift and associated risk, with Chris Boehm emphasizing the speed and scope of AI agent deployment compared to previous technology waves such as mobile and cloud. The emergence of agents capable of rapidly scanning and connecting across systems further complicates standard prevention and detection postures. Credential governance is described as insufficient on its own, since privileges and exceptions tend to accumulate and enable unaudited access, particularly as agent proliferation accelerates. The episode also references the challenge of building reliable behavioral baselines due to the dynamic, ephemeral nature of modern agents, making static or manual approaches impractical. For MSPs and IT service providers, the operational implications include increased risk associated with governance gaps, margin pressure from the need to adopt new security layers, and greater complexity in maintaining policy enforcement. Existing security stacks are often fragmented, with consolidation complicated by the addition of new solutions that promise automation and scalability but also require integration into varying infrastructure maturity levels. Effective containment of breaches is increasingly tied to minimizing lateral movement rather than relying solely on detection speed. As agent-driven access becomes ubiquitous, the ability to dynamically segment and restrict access based on observed behavior, rather than static credentials alone, is highlighted as a practical safeguard in limiting breach impact and maintaining service continuity. Supported by:Zero Networks https://zeronetworks.com/ 💼 All Our SponsorsSupport the vendors who support the show:👉 https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ 🚀 Join Business of Tech PlusGet exclusive access to investigative reports, vendor analysis, leadership briefings, and more.👉 https://businessof.tech/plus 🎧 Subscribe to the Business of TechWant the show on your favorite podcast app or prefer the written versions of each story?📲 https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe 📰 Story Links & SourcesLooking for the links from today’s stories?Every episode script — with full source links — is posted at:🌐 https://www.businessof.tech 🎙 Want to Be a Guest?Pitch your story or appear on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights:💬 https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech 🔗 Follow Business of Tech LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradioBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.techInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 6/18/26 | ![]() AI Adoption Widens Operational Divide: Peter Kujawa on Service Leadership Index Data | The episode centers on persistent margin pressure and operational discipline as the dominant structural mechanisms in the managed services sector. Data from the Service Leadership Index (SLI), managed by ConnectWise under Peter Kujawa, reveals that best-in-class MSPs continue to target aggressive profit growth—specifically, a 34% increase in profit dollars on only 10.6% revenue growth—despite already sustaining a six-year average of 19% adjusted EBITDA. The discussion highlights that achieving these targets relies less on rapid revenue growth and more on cost control, particularly around SG&A (Selling, General and Administrative Expenses), and highlights the influence of financial discipline often seen in private equity-backed firms. The analysis is grounded in quantitative benchmarking. According to the SLI’s 2026 profitability report, while best-in-class EBITDA performance has been sustained, recent years show a widening gap between budget targets and attainment. Specifically, in 2023, MSPs overshot their profit budget by 31%, but in 2024 and 2025, performance dropped to 81.9% and 89.4% of budget respectively. The report explicitly calls current profit targets “ambitious,” given recent misses. Scale thresholds were also referenced, notably the operational risks between $6M and $10M in annual revenue, with Peter Kujawa citing stalls in growth and compressed margins as common in that band. The episode further introduces the first iteration of an Automation Index intended to quantify financial and operational impact of AI adoption on MSPs. Metrics such as service multiple of wages, revenue per employee, and service gross margin are emphasized, but findings show that automation is not delivering uniform benefit. Top-tier MSPs increase efficiency and retain pricing discipline, while bottom quartile firms see little or no improvement in core metrics. The report also notes that private equity-backed providers are investing significantly in AI, though organic growth and acquisition costs remain similar across provider types. Operational implications for MSPs include heightened accountability for realistic forecasting and disciplined budgeting. Failure to match projections with operational realities risks unnecessary cost expansion, especially around headcount and tool adoption. For firms in key scale thresholds, owner delegation and leadership investment are essential to avoid stagnation and margin erosion. Additionally, automation and AI adoption provide efficiency opportunities but deliver benefit only to those with strong management practices; undisciplined adoption or margin givebacks through pricing discounts negate potential gains. MSPs must therefore focus on data-driven decision-making, careful cost control, and ongoing evaluation of both financial and operational KPIs to navigate increasing complexity, vendor dependency, and persistent margin pressures. 💼 All Our SponsorsSupport the vendors who support the show:👉 https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ 🚀 Join Business of Tech PlusGet exclusive access to investigative reports, vendor analysis, leadership briefings, and more.👉 https://businessof.tech/plus 🎧 Subscribe to the Business of TechWant the show on your favorite podcast app or prefer the written versions of each story?📲 https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe 📰 Story Links & SourcesLooking for the links from today’s stories?Every episode script — with full source links — is posted at:🌐 https://www.businessof.tech 🎙 Want to Be a Guest?Pitch your story or appear on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights:💬 https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech 🔗 Follow Business of Tech LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradioBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.techInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 6/17/26 | ![]() The Real AI Risk for MSPs: Who Verifies the Output When Clients Don’t Ask? | The core structural shift highlighted in this episode is the commoditization of AI model platforms and concurrent consolidation at the vendor and platform layer, forcing Managed Service Providers (MSPs) to move their value proposition above reselling models to orchestrating, governing, and verifying AI outputs. The discussion references the rising concentration and valuation of platforms such as NinjaOne—a founder-led, profitable RMM platform with a $12.3 billion valuation and 70% year-over-year growth—and Pax8 building business toolkits that draw more operational functions onto their rails. At the same time, major AI developers like OpenAI are entering the channel more directly by launching partner programs aimed at MSPs and consultants. The most consequential development is the confirmed shift from reselling AI models to managing their outputs and risks. Glean surveyed 6,000 digital workers and found that while AI delivers approximately 11 hours of weekly time savings, nearly 6.4 hours are reclaimed by “bot sitting”—the human intervention required to supply context, verify, and correct AI outputs. This hidden labor raises a risk scenario: two-thirds of workers admit to releasing unchecked AI outputs, and Ivanti found that only 42% of IT environments actually have a named owner for each AI agent, despite 85% claiming so—a 43-point gap in accountability. Asana and Deloitte further reinforce the issue, reporting frequent cost overruns and unmanaged autonomous AI deployments among enterprise and SMB environments. Supporting developments underscore this governance and accountability gap. TechCrunch cited that ChatGPT’s AI market share has dropped below 50% as the field becomes more interchangeable and less differentiated by underlying model. Vendors such as Anthropic and OpenAI, recognizing model commoditization, are seeking revenue through high-volume partner channels, blurring the lines between vendor and channel competitor. According to Asana, more than 80% of UK IT leaders encountered unplanned AI costs, and over half reported business harm from autonomous AI actions, shifting operational and liability risks squarely onto MSPs and IT service providers. Operationally, these trends compel MSPs to take explicit ownership of the orchestration and governance layer, rather than relying on tool reselling. The transcript advises mapping every AI-driven decision or output that reaches client endpoints and identifying who verifies these outputs before customer exposure. Failing to address these governance blanks does not avoid work but shifts it to unbilled, post-incident cleanup, often with financial, legal, or compliance consequences. Effective MSPs will need to price, document, and regularly review their verification, orchestration, and risk assumption, positioning these as standalone, billable services to manage risk and maintain margin as AI platforms commoditize and vendor dependencies rise. 00:00 Bigger Platforms, Unwatched AI 03:44 The Vendor Walks Into the Channel 05:56 Govern It or Absorb It 08:52 Why Do We Care? Supported by: ScalePad Sign up for the SMB Online Conference: www.smbonlineconference.com 💼 All Our SponsorsSupport the vendors who support the show:👉 https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ 🚀 Join Business of Tech PlusGet exclusive access to investigative reports, vendor analysis, leadership briefings, and more.👉 https://businessof.tech/plus 🎧 Subscribe to the Business of TechWant the show on your favorite podcast app or prefer the written versions of each story?📲 https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe 📰 Story Links & SourcesLooking for the links from today’s stories?Every episode script — with full source links — is posted at:🌐 https://www.businessof.tech 🎙 Want to Be a Guest?Pitch your story or appear on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights:💬 https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech 🔗 Follow Business of Tech LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradioBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.techInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 6/16/26 | ![]() Government AI Shutdown Exposes Hidden Vendor Dependencies for MSPs | A pronounced infrastructure dependence on third-party AI models has emerged across the MSP ecosystem, largely due to the rapid adoption and integration of AI-powered features within vendor products. This structural shift is increasingly opaque, as providers are sold features rather than transparent access to underlying models, leaving MSPs exposed to changes in technologies and policies enacted upstream by vendors or regulators. The episode highlights how this dependency extends to delivery teams and end clients, with operational continuity tightly linked to decisions and actions outside the MSP’s direct control. The most consequential development referenced is Anthropic’s release and rapid withdrawal of its Fable 5 AI model following a directive from the U.S. Commerce Department, which ordered a cutoff of model access to foreign nationals within 72 hours of public launch. According to published benchmarks, Fable 5 surpassed GPT 5.5 in performance, but the government-mandated suspension exposed how quickly model access can be rescinded. The policy move immediately impacted any MSP or client with offshore or nearshore staff relying on AI features invisibly powered by that model. Further supporting the central theme, companies such as PAX8, Enforcer, and CloudRadio are embedding AI capabilities into platforms used by MSPs to manage Microsoft 365 environments, automate ticketing, and support scalable client operations. In parallel, vendors like Proofpoint are integrating compliance solutions directly with AI model APIs, further entwining risk management tools with the same core AI infrastructures. A Netrio survey cited in the episode found that while 82% of mid-market IT leaders have AI in production, only 26% report organization-wide governance, highlighting an accountability and visibility gap. Operationally, MSPs face heightened contract and vendor risk. Most lack an accurate inventory of which AI models underpin their services and how rapidly these dependencies can be affected by regulatory directives or vendor shifts. The discussion underscores the need for explicit procurement protocols, delivery mapping, and outage runbooks that account for opaque model dependencies. As clients seek greater transparency and contractual assurances regarding model use and continuity, MSPs who anticipate and document these dependencies may be positioned to reduce exposure and establish clearer accountability. 00:00 Switched Off 03:19 Painted Over 05:20 Govern or Absorb 08:41 Why Do We Care? Supported by: Pax8 Sign up for the SMB Online Conference: www.smbonlineconference.com 💼 All Our SponsorsSupport the vendors who support the show:👉 https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ 🚀 Join Business of Tech PlusGet exclusive access to investigative reports, vendor analysis, leadership briefings, and more.👉 https://businessof.tech/plus 🎧 Subscribe to the Business of TechWant the show on your favorite podcast app or prefer the written versions of each story?📲 https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe 📰 Story Links & SourcesLooking for the links from today’s stories?Every episode script — with full source links — is posted at:🌐 https://www.businessof.tech 🎙 Want to Be a Guest?Pitch your story or appear on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights:💬 https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech 🔗 Follow Business of Tech LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradioBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.techInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 6/15/26 | ![]() Atera’s AI Shift: Gil Pekelman on Accountability and Risk in Autonomous IT for MSPs | The episode highlights a structural shift from automation that suggests actions to automation that executes actions autonomously, thereby transferring substantial operational risk and accountability to technology vendors and their AI-driven platforms. This transition is exemplified by Atera's deployment of their autonomous AI agent, Robin, which is positioned to handle a significant proportion of Tier 1 and complex Tier 2 IT tickets for managed service providers (MSPs). The company’s commercial strategy, including performance guarantees, signals an increased expectation that AI can assume core IT operational responsibilities that were traditionally reserved for human engineers. Atera has introduced a policy wherein Robin is guaranteed to autonomously close at least 50% of all Tier 1 and complex Tier 2 tickets within 90 days of onboarding, or fees are waived. According to Atera, this commitment is supported by a backend analysis of MSP tickets and live demonstrations using historical data. The company asserts that Robin’s mean time to repair is approximately 120 seconds, that onboarding is managed collaboratively, and that the rollout is more akin to hiring and training a human engineer than a standard software deployment. This approach is backed by patent filings and a business model integrating AI as the foundation rather than an add-on. The episode further examines the implications of mandatory AI bundling in Atera’s redefined RMM and PSA platform offering. The company has faced pushback from segments of the MSP community dissatisfied with bundled AI services and associated pricing changes, particularly from those wishing to maintain control over their technology stack. Atera responds by describing a re-conceptualization of their platform as inherently AI-driven, distinguishing between “platform AI” and the autonomous Robin agent, and clarifying that preexisting AI users would not incur additional costs. There is also discussion around the impact of automation on human roles and the need for new approaches to training and accountability, particularly for junior staff. For MSPs and IT service providers, these developments signal an increase in infrastructure dependency on vendor-managed AI agents, as well as new layers of contract risk linked to performance guarantees and platform integration. The operational reality described involves a significant reduction in required headcount, a shift in staff responsibilities from routine incident response to higher-order business and security tasks, and the necessity for designated internal management of AI tools. There remain unresolved concerns about skill degradation and the long-term risks of over-automation, including the narrower pathways through which junior personnel may acquire foundational experience. Sponsored by: ScalePad https://scalepad.com/dave/ Nerdio https://nerdio.co/MSP-Radio Sign up for the SMB Online Conference: www.smbonlineconference.com 💼 All Our SponsorsSupport the vendors who support the show:👉 https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ 🚀 Join Business of Tech PlusGet exclusive access to investigative reports, vendor analysis, leadership briefings, and more.👉 https://businessof.tech/plus 🎧 Subscribe to the Business of TechWant the show on your favorite podcast app or prefer the written versions of each story?📲 https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe 📰 Story Links & SourcesLooking for the links from today’s stories?Every episode script — with full source links — is posted at:🌐 https://www.businessof.tech 🎙 Want to Be a Guest?Pitch your story or appear on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights:💬 https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech 🔗 Follow Business of Tech LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradioBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.techInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 6/12/26 | ![]() New AI Governance Tools Are Table Stakes—Positioning, Not Stack, Drives MSP Growth✨ | AI governance toolsMSP growth+4 | — | Atomic WorkSilverfort+7 | — | AIMSP+5 | — | 12m 00s | |
| 6/11/26 | ![]() Abraham Garver: Why Private Equity Rollups Push Smaller MSPs Into New Market Niches✨ | private equityMSP consolidation+4 | Abraham Garver | WorksightedThrive+1 | — | private equityMSP+6 | — | 31m 39s | |
| 6/10/26 | ![]() Pressure to Adopt AI Forces MSPs to Absorb Risks Designed by Platform Vendors✨ | AI adoptionMSP challenges+4 | — | PAX8Ingram Micro Cloud+2 | SMBAI | AI servicesMSPs+7 | — | 13m 47s | |
| 6/9/26 | ![]() ConnectWise Abandons ASIO: AI-Driven Platforms Shift Risk and Governance to MSPs✨ | AI governanceMSP challenges+4 | — | Anthropic’s ClaudeConnectWise+5 | mid-market | AI-driven platformsMSPs+8 | — | 13m 30s | |
| 6/8/26 | ![]() Michael Privat: Data Weakness, Not AI Tools, Derails Enterprise AI Investments✨ | enterprise AIdata infrastructure+3 | Michael Privat | MIT Media LabAvailability | — | enterprise AIdata consistency+3 | — | 21m 55s | |
| 6/5/26 | ![]() Consumption-Based AI Billing Increases Financial Risk for Unprepared MSPs✨ | AI risk managementMSP accountability+4 | — | AnthropicMicrosoft+4 | — | AI billingMSPs+6 | — | 13m 46s | |
| 6/4/26 | ![]() Jay McBain on How Microsoft’s AI Billing Passes Risk and Liability to MSPs✨ | AI billingMSP business model+4 | Jay McBain | E7 licenseMicrosoft+1 | — | AI consumptionMSP+6 | — | 39m 04s | |
| 6/3/26 | ![]() Vendor Outcomes, Warranties, and the Shift from Risk Manager to Delivery Arm for MSPs✨ | managed securityvendor warranties+4 | — | IntezerSPECTRA+5 | — | managed securityvendor warranties+6 | — | 13m 03s | |
| 6/2/26 | ![]() AI as Production Workload Makes Spend Limits and Logging Mandatory for MSPs✨ | AI integrationMSP tooling+5 | — | PDQSenteon+7 | — | AIMSP+6 | — | 13m 02s | |
| 6/1/26 | ![]() Forced Arbitration in Tech Contracts: Brendan Ballou on Vendor Accountability Risks✨ | forced arbitrationvendor accountability+4 | Brendan Ballou | MicrosoftAmazon+3 | — | forced arbitrationvendor contracts+5 | — | 23m 49s | |
| 5/29/26 | ![]() Governance, Not Enablement: Why Agentic AI Demands New MSP Service Models✨ | AI governancemanaged service providers+5 | — | ScalepadSNCC+3 | — | agentic AIMSP service models+5 | — | 15m 22s | |
| 5/28/26 | ![]() AI Liability and Data Risk Shifts: Veeam’s Platform Pivot and Rich Freeman on MSP Readiness✨ | AI liabilitydata risk+4 | Rich Freeman | Data AI Command PlatformMicrosoft 365+5 | — | AI agentsdata automation+4 | — | 39m 36s | |
| 5/27/26 | ![]() Structured Vendor Programs Increase Operational Load for MSPs✨ | vendor programsMSP challenges+4 | Dave Sobel | MicrosoftNinjaOne+3 | — | vendor programsMSP+6 | — | 15m 23s | |
| 5/26/26 | ![]() AI Governance Hurdles in Defense: Jason Tierney Examines CMMC Barriers for MSPs✨ | AI GovernanceCMMC+4 | Jason Tierney | C3 Integrated SolutionsDepartment of Defense+1 | U.S. | CMMCMSPs+5 | — | 26m 33s | |
| 5/22/26 | ![]() Google Redesigns Search: Automation Control Emerges as Core MSP Responsibility✨ | AI in searchautomation+5 | — | Gemini 3.5 FlashOpenAI’s GPT suite+6 | — | GoogleAI+7 | — | 13m 42s | |
| 5/20/26 | ![]() Security Proof Becomes an MSP Service: Insurance, Trustmarks, and the Evidence Operating Model✨ | MSP servicescybersecurity+4 | — | WatchGuardAssurix+5 | — | MSPsecurity operations+6 | — | 14m 04s | |
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