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#177 - What Happens After the Deal Closes? The Real Work of Agency Mergers w/ Anne Baum
Jun 23, 2026
32m 30s
#176 - How to Read Your Insurance Agency Financials Like a CFO
Jun 16, 2026
20m 42s
#175 - Get Your Agency a Health Check
Jun 9, 2026
26m 22s
#174 - Building a Sales Culture in an Independent Insurance Agency w/ Patrick McClure
May 26, 2026
33m 31s
#173 - Building the Next Generation of Insurance Leaders with Launchpad
May 19, 2026
30m 19s
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| 6/23/26 | ![]() #177 - What Happens After the Deal Closes? The Real Work of Agency Mergers w/ Anne Baum | In this episode of Business Refocused, Carey and Lindsay sit down with leadership consultant Anne Baum to discuss a critical piece of agency mergers that often gets overlooked: culture. While most merger conversations focus on valuation, deal structure, and financial performance, Anne explains that the real work begins after the transaction closes. The long-term success of any merger depends on how well leadership brings two teams together, builds trust, and create a shared vision for the fut... | 32m 30s | ||||||
| 6/16/26 | ![]() #176 - How to Read Your Insurance Agency Financials Like a CFO | In this episode of Business Refocused, Carey and Lindsay answer common financial questions they’ve recently received from agency owners and break down what a meaningful monthly financial review should actually look like. From analyzing six-month auto policies and understanding profitability to identifying discretionary expenses and building accurate financial reports, the conversation focuses on helping agency owners use their financials as a decision-making tool rather than simply a historic... | 20m 42s | ||||||
| 6/9/26 | ![]() #175 - Get Your Agency a Health Check | In this episode of Business Refocused, Carey and Lindsay explore how agency benchmarking is helping independent insurance agencies gain deeper financial visibility and make more informed business decisions. As more agency owners look beyond valuation and focus on long-term performance, health checks have become a powerful tool for measuring growth, profitability, book health, staffing efficiency, and operational risk. Carey and Lindsay discuss how agencies can use benchmarking data to underst... | 26m 22s | ||||||
| 5/26/26 | ![]() #174 - Building a Sales Culture in an Independent Insurance Agency w/ Patrick McClure | In this episode of Business Refocused, Carey and Lindsay sit down with Patrick McClure of Impact Performance Team to talk about one of the biggest challenges agency owners face: creating a true sales culture. Patrick shares his journey from commercial insurance producer to sales leader and entrepreneur, helping independent agencies improve sales performance, develop producers, recruit talent, and build accountability across their organizations. What started as sales coaching has evolved into ... | 33m 31s | ||||||
| 5/19/26 | ![]() #173 - Building the Next Generation of Insurance Leaders with Launchpad | In this episode of The Insurance Refocused Podcast, Lindsay and Carey Wallace welcome Beth DeLaForest back to the show to talk about Launchpad, a new webinar series designed to help the next generation of insurance professionals learn, grow, and build meaningful industry connections. Beth and Carey share why knowledge transfer matters more than ever as experienced leaders prepare to exit the industry and younger professionals step into bigger roles. They discuss the value of mentorship, outsi... | 30m 19s | ||||||
| 5/12/26 | ![]() Run Your Agency Like You're Selling It Tomorrow (Carey & Insurance Leaders Lab) | In this special re-release, we’re sharing an episode originally featured on Nina Shepard's Insurance Leaders Lab Podcast. Carey joins Nina to talk about financial clarity for independent insurance agency owners. They discuss why waiting until you're ready to sell is a mistake, how your compensation structure could secretly be tanking your agency's value, and the three key drivers that determine what your business is really worth—growth, profitability, and transferability. Originally fea... | 41m 57s | ||||||
| 5/5/26 | ![]() #171 - The Story Behind the Numbers | In this episode of Business Refocused, Carey and Lindsay break down what they’re seeing from real agency benchmarking data and how top-performing insurance agencies are driving growth and profitability. They walk through the key metrics that matter most, including organic growth, profitability, staffing, technology spend, and revenue per employee. More importantly, they explain how these metrics work together and what actually drives performance inside an agency. One of the biggest takeaways ... | 18m 51s | ||||||
| 4/28/26 | ![]() #170 - Inside AgencyFocus: From Valuations to Fractional CFO | In this episode of Business Refocused, Todd Hufford interviews Carey and Lindsay Wallace on the story behind AgencyFocus, how they each found their way into insurance, and what it took to grow the business beyond agency valuation. Carey shares how a role with the PIA of Ohio led her into valuation, perpetuation planning, and data analytics, eventually becoming the foundation for AgencyFocus. Lindsay shares her own path into the industry and how her experience helped shape the company’s next s... | 45m 11s | ||||||
| 4/21/26 | ![]() #169 - How Smart Agencies Are Hiring Young Talent w/ Todd Hufford | In this episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay and Carey sit down with Todd Hufford, CEO of Conner Insurance, to talk about on a topic that’s shaping the future of agencies: bringing in young talent. The conversation starts light but quickly gets into something more meaningful. Todd shares how his perspective on time, shaped early in life, led him to think long-term about building an agency. Not just for today’s revenue, but for the next generation of leaders. Todd shares how Conner Ins... | 21m 03s | ||||||
| 4/14/26 | ![]() #168 - What Comes Next? Redefining Yourself After a Career Shift w/ Nicole Malachowski | In this episode of Business Refocused, Carey and Lindsay sit down with Nicole Malachowski, retired U.S. Air Force Colonel and the first female Thunderbird pilot, to talk about transition. Not just planning for it. Actually going through it. Nicole’s career ended unexpectedly after a serious illness forced her out of the role she had built her identity around. What followed wasn’t a clean next step. It was the messy middle that most people don’t talk about. Her perspective is simple and practi... | 39m 15s | ||||||
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| 4/7/26 | ![]() #167 – Walking Away Happy w/ Matt Naimoli | The agency owners who walk away from a sale feeling good aren't the ones who got lucky — they're the ones who prepared. In the final episode of this series, Carey and Matt talk about fixing problems before they become deal killers, how to know what kind of seller you are, and why the question of what comes next matters just as much as the closing number. In this episode: How to fix valuation issues before you go to marketThe three seller personas — and why knowing yours changes everythingWhat... | 22m 42s | ||||||
| 3/31/26 | ![]() #166 – What's Your Agency Actually Worth w/ Matt Naimoli | Your agency might be worth less than you think — and the reasons probably have nothing to do with your revenue. In part three, Carey and Matt dig into the valuation drivers most owners never see coming: producer-owned books, aggregator contracts, leadership concentration, and the transferability issues that quietly discount an otherwise strong agency. In this episode: Why a multiple of EBITDA is just the starting pointProducer-owned books: what they are and what they cost you at exitAggregato... | 20m 28s | ||||||
| 3/24/26 | ![]() #165 – The Decisions That Matter When Selling Your Agency w/ Matt Naimoli | Selling your agency isn't just a financial transaction — it's one of the biggest decisions you'll ever make. In part two of this series, Carey and Matt get into what it actually looks like to navigate an exit, whether that's keeping it in the family or going to market. They break down the difference between a broker and a true advisor, why the fee question is the wrong place to start, and what it really takes to feel good about the outcome. In this episode: Internal succession vs. external sa... | 16m 32s | ||||||
| 3/17/26 | ![]() #164 – Running the Numbers w/ Matt Naimoli | Most agency owners are great at insurance. The financial side? That's where things get fuzzy. Carey Wallace sits down with Matt Naimoli of Legacy Advisors to talk about what financial clarity actually looks like inside an independent agency — and why getting there changes everything from hiring decisions to long-term value. This is part one of a four-part series. In this episode: Why most agency owners are making big decisions without the right financial pictureWhat a fractional CFO actually ... | 18m 39s | ||||||
| 3/10/26 | ![]() #163 - It's Not Always About Size w/ Adam DeLaForest | In this episode, Lindsay and Carey sit down with Adam DeLaForest to explore the key factors influencing agency valuation, including financial management, operational efficiency, and market conditions. Our guest, Adam DeLaForest, shares insights from his experience completing valuations on numerous agencies at his role in AgencyFocus, emphasizing the importance of profitability, contracts, and strategic planning for agency owners. Connect with us: Follow AgencyFocus for more conversatio... | 29m 18s | ||||||
| 3/3/26 | ![]() #162 - Your Yearly Agency Check-Up: Benchmarking | In this episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay and Carey focus specifically on benchmarking and why it might be the most underutilized tool in an agency owner’s toolbox. A lot of owners think benchmarking is just a “nice to have” report. In reality, it is a financial health check. It gives you a clear, unbiased look at how your agency stacks up against others your size and where you may be off without realizing it. They walk through what benchmarking actually uncovers, including: Whether your... | 23m 47s | ||||||
| 2/24/26 | ![]() #161 - Hire Better Producers w/ Steve Heroux | In this solo episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay sits down with sales coach and founder of The Sales Collective, Steve Heroux, for a direct and eye-opening conversation about why so many agencies struggle with producer hiring, motivation, and growth. Steve shares his journey from a painfully shy kid to a top national sales performer, and now a coach helping organizations rethink how they hire and develop sales talent. He breaks down why most agencies are unknowingly sabotaging their growth... | 35m 36s | ||||||
| 2/17/26 | ![]() #160 - No Crying In Budgeting w/ Lisa Melroy | In this episode of Business Refocused, Carey and Lindsay welcome AgencyFocus Fractional CFO Lisa Melroy, CPA, for a very real conversation about budgeting inside independent insurance agencies. Lisa has spent more than 30 years in financial roles, including working directly with independent agencies and networks. She shares what actually happens behind the scenes when agencies either skip budgeting altogether or build one that looks good on paper but doesn’t reflect reality. They talk through... | 32m 39s | ||||||
| 2/10/26 | ![]() #159 - Who Should Own Your Agency After You w/ Laurie Barkman | In this episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay and Carey sit down with Laurie Barkman, owner of The Business Transition Sherpa, to talk about one of the most common (and most avoided) conversations in independent insurance agencies: how to transition ownership without losing value, momentum, or key people. Laurie reframes “exit planning” as transition planning, emphasizing that leaving your business is a moment, but building a transferable company takes years. Together, they dig into why... | 37m 54s | ||||||
| 2/3/26 | ![]() #158 - Interest Rates and Agency M&A in 2026 w/ Scott Freiday & Keith Mangini | In this episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay and Carey sit down with Scott Freiday and Keith Mangini from InsurBanc for a timely, straight-talk conversation about interest rates, lending strategy, and what agency owners should actually be doing in 2026. From rate expectations and market timing myths to acquisition readiness and creditworthiness, Scott and Keith break down how lenders really think about agency deals. They explain why waiting for the “perfect rate” can cost buyers real opport... | 30m 23s | ||||||
| 1/27/26 | ![]() #157 - How InsurTech Is Changing Independent Agencies w/ Tony Lew | In this episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay and Carey welcome Tony Lew, Co-Founder of InsurTech New York, to kick off a new direction for the podcast: bringing on guests outside of agency ownership to help agency leaders learn how other parts of the insurance ecosystem operate. Tony shares how InsurTech New York was started in 2019, what the insurtech landscape looked like during the peak hype cycle, and what separates sustainable insurtech companies from the ones that flame out. Tony brea... | 31m 43s | ||||||
| 1/20/26 | ![]() #156 - Make Your Agency More Valuable | In this episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay and Carey sit down for a practical conversation on how independent insurance agencies can increase agency valuation. They unpack what “growing value” really means beyond writing more policies, and why the agencies that win long-term are the ones built around efficiency, focus, and intentional investment. You’ll hear their take on why a clear niche creates predictability (and protects profitability), how to identify the biggest time drains inside ... | 34m 56s | ||||||
| 1/13/26 | ![]() #155 - Perpetuation | In this episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay and Carey dig into one of the most common yet misunderstood ownership paths in independent agencies: internal perpetuation. While internal transitions often feel simpler than external sales, the reality is the work is just different and, without urgency, these deals can quietly stall or fall apart. They share what makes internal transitions successful, where agencies tend to get stuck, and what they’ve learned from helping agencies plan ownership... | 23m 56s | ||||||
| 1/6/26 | ![]() #154 - The Mindset Behind Successful Acquisitions w/ Jeff Arnold | In this episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay and Carey sit down with Jeff Arnold, founder of RightSure, serial acquirer, author of 11 books, and one of the most experienced agency buyers in the industry. With more than 40 agency acquisitions, multiple exits, and decades of leadership experience, Jeff brings a grounded, honest perspective on growth, technology, and knowing when it’s time to let go. The conversation covers what most agency owners are thinking about right now: how to lead thro... | 32m 53s | ||||||
| 12/30/25 | ![]() #153 - Being a Student of Business w/ Larry Linne | In this episode of Business Refocused, Lindsay and Carey sit down with Larry G. Linne, founder of InCite Performance Group, author of Make the Noise Go Away, and a lifelong student of business, leadership, and human behavior. Larry shares his unconventional path from a West Texas football player once told he “shouldn’t go to college” to becoming one of the most respected advisors in the insurance industry. Along the way, he explains why curiosity, critical thinking, and execution matter more ... | 40m 21s | ||||||
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