From Shame to Fame: Changing Behaviors and RSAC Interviews from Tanium and Illumio - Craig Taylor, Tim Morris, Andrew Rubin - BSW #444
From Business Security Weekly (Video) by Matt Alderman
April 22, 2026 · 1h 8m
About this episode
Craig Taylor discusses the need to shift security awareness training from shame to positive reinforcement.
Why have security awareness training programs failed? Maybe we need to understand human psychology. Humans don't like tricks, or to be shamed, or negative emotions. Humans want to be rewarded, but yet our training and phishing programs are not built for reward. Maybe it's time to rethink cyber literacy. Craig Taylor, CEO and Co-founder at CyberHoot, joins Business Security Weekly to discuss why we need to shift our Cyber Literacy industry from shame and punishment towards gamification, positive reinforcement, and small rewards. If we truly aspire to change behaviors, then we need a different approach. Craig will discuss how a multi-disciplinary approach rooted in science is the future of training and phishing programs. Segment Resources: Individual Registration (Free Personal Training for Life): https://cyberhoot.com/individuals/ Newsletter Registration: https://cyberhoot.com/newsletters/ Blog Articles: https://cyberhoot.com/blog/ Cybrary (Library of 1000+ Cybersecurity Terms in non-technical language): https://cyberhoot.com/cybrary/ Special Podcast Offer: 20% off CyberHoot for 1 year using the podcast's unique coupon code: "Business Security Weekly" From Reactive to Autonomous…
People in this episode
Host: Matt Alderman
Guest: Craig Taylor
Topics covered
- security awareness training
- human psychology
- gamification
- positive reinforcement
- cyber literacy
- behavior change
Keywords
- security awareness
- human behavior
- training programs
- gamification
- cybersecurity
- positive reinforcement
Sponsors
CyberHoot
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Organizations: CyberHoot
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