
S4- Episode 4-Enough for Today-Donna Barber
From Calm and Confident Leader Podcast by Jason Stonehouse
February 24, 2026 · 25 min
About this episode
Jason Stonehouse and Donna Barber discuss the challenges of leadership during wilderness seasons and the importance of honesty and humility.
Have you ever felt like you’re leading… while quietly wondering if you’re lost? What do you do when you’re not where you used to be, not yet where you thought you’d be, and the map feels a little blurry? In this episode of The Calm and Confident Leader , Jason Stonehouse sits down with writer, educator, and leadership developer Donna Barber, author of Enough for Today: 40 Reflections for Surviving the Wilderness . Together, they explore the leadership reality we don’t talk about enough, the wilderness seasons. Not the dramatic collapse. Not the highlight reel success. But the in-between. Donna shares what gets stripped away in the wilderness. The props. The image management. The illusion that leaders are somehow above the earthquake while everyone else feels the tremors. She offers a powerful reminder that leadership does not require superhuman strength. It requires honesty, humility, and the courage to admit we are in it too. You’ll hear them unpack: What wilderness seasons reveal about our fears, insecurities, and misplaced hopes How to face fear instead of letting it quietly run the show Why perception often fuels fear more than reality How to rediscover God in ordinary…
People in this episode
Host: Jason Stonehouse
Guest: Donna Barber
Topics covered
- leadership
- wilderness seasons
- fear and insecurity
- honesty and humility
- spirituality in leadership
Keywords
- leadership development
- reflections
- change
- victim thinking
Mentioned in this episode
Products: Enough for Today: 40 Reflections for Surviving the Wilderness
Books & works: Enough for Today, The Calm and Confident Leader, Surviving the Wilderness
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