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Return With Clarity: A Summer Leadership Challenge
Jun 2, 2026
11m 26s
What To Do With The Year You Just Had
May 27, 2026
22m 22s
The Gift of Pause When Leading What’s Next
May 19, 2026
43m 47s
Endings That Stick
May 12, 2026
15m 30s
3 Practices to Make the Last 30 Days Count
May 5, 2026
9m 18s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/2/26 | ![]() Return With Clarity: A Summer Leadership Challenge✨ | leadershipself-renewal+3 | — | FranklinCovey Education7th Habit | — | leadershipsummer break+3 | — | 11m 26s | |
| 5/27/26 | ![]() What To Do With The Year You Just Had✨ | educator transitionemotional well-being+3 | — | FranklinCovey EducationYale+1 | — | emotion contagionleadership+3 | — | 22m 22s | |
| 5/19/26 | ![]() The Gift of Pause When Leading What’s Next✨ | leadershipreflection+3 | Victoria Roos Olsson | The 6 Critical Practices for Leading a TeamFranklin Covey Education | — | leadershipreflection+3 | — | 43m 47s | |
| 5/12/26 | ![]() Endings That Stick✨ | end of school yearstudent reflection+3 | — | FranklinCovey Education | — | endingseducation+3 | — | 15m 30s | |
| 5/5/26 | ![]() 3 Practices to Make the Last 30 Days Count✨ | educationleadership+3 | — | FranklinCovey Education | Mechanics Grove Elementary | spring feverlegacy projects+3 | — | 9m 18s | |
| 4/28/26 | ![]() What's Really Happening With AI in Schools?✨ | Artificial IntelligenceEducation+3 | — | RANDPew+2 | — | AI in schoolscovert AI use+3 | — | 22m 51s | |
| 4/21/26 | ![]() The Truth About School Culture✨ | school cultureeducational leadership+3 | Todd Nesloney | Texas Elementary Principals and Supervisors AssociationFranklinCovey Education+1 | — | school cultureeducational leadership+3 | — | 54m 44s | |
| 4/14/26 | ![]() Are We Asking the Wrong Questions About Student Well-Being?✨ | student well-beingpsychological richness+3 | — | FranklinCovey Education | — | student well-beingpsychological richness+3 | — | 19m 50s | |
| 4/7/26 | ![]() Finishing the School Year Strong✨ | educationleadership+4 | — | FranklinCovey Education | — | school yeartesting season+5 | — | 11m 11s | |
| 3/31/26 | ![]() Planting S.E.E.D.S. to Grow Leaders Who Build Leaders✨ | leadershipK-12 education+4 | Dr. Bridget Duzy | Franklin Covey EducationC&D | — | leadershipSEEDS philosophy+5 | — | 45m 17s | |
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| 3/24/26 | ![]() Permission to Play: Why Joy is a Leadership Skill✨ | joy in educationleadership skills+3 | — | FranklinCovey Educationbroaden-and-build theory | — | joyleadership+6 | — | 24m 45s | |
| 3/17/26 | ![]() How Educators Can Help Students Rewrite Their “Broken Soundtracks” | Lessons on Mindset With Jon Acuff✨ | mindseteducation+3 | Jon Acuff | FranklinCovey EducationSoundtracks: The Surprising Solution to Overthinking | — | mindsetbroken soundtracks+5 | — | 37m 42s | |
| 3/10/26 | ![]() How Curiosity Drives Deeper Learning✨ | curiosityeducation+3 | — | FranklinCovey Education | — | curiositylearning+3 | — | 12m 28s | |
| 3/3/26 | ![]() Break the Burnout Cycle. Reclaim Your Agency✨ | burnoutleadership+3 | — | FranklinCovey Education | — | burnoutleadership+7 | — | 11m 40s | |
| 2/24/26 | ![]() High Expectations: Belief, Behavior, or Both? | In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller dive into the pervasive and often misunderstood topic of "high expectations." While most leaders strive to raise the bar, they often see the same patterns repeat: the same students doing the thinking and the same staff carrying the load. Kim and Eve explore the research behind why this happens, revealing that high expectations are not just a mindset, but a visible environment created by thousands of micro-decisions.Listeners will be guided through a visualization exercise to understand how belief shifts behavior, from the feedback we give to the opportunities we offer. The hosts unpack four research-backed practices to disrupt low-expectation cycles: conducting an "Opportunity Audit," separating a student's "snapshot" from their potential "pathway," utilizing "Wise Feedback," and pairing challenge with structural support. This episode challenges educators to examine their default settings and intentionally design cultures where growth is the norm, not the exception.Our Staff Booster: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/lim_staffbooster_episode23?x=63yTZlDownload the Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_epis-23?x=63yTZlHosts: Kim Yaris, M.Ed. Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey EducationDr. Eve Miller, Director of Research with FranklinCovey EducationTimestamps:(00:00 - 00:42) Podcast intro (00:42 - 01:49) The expectation gap (01:49 - 04:24) Visualizing belief versus doubt (04:24 - 06:28) Expectations as environments (06:28 - 08:46) How expectations leak out (08:46 - 10:45) Cycles of expectations (10:45 - 13:21) Balancing efficiency and expectation (13:21 - 16:21) Labels and self-perception(16:21 - 18:24) Practice 1: Opportunity Audit (18:24 - 19:35) Practice 2: Snapshot vs Pathway (19:35 - 20:30) Practice 3: Wise Feedback (20:30 - 21:54) Practice 4: Challenge and Support (21:54 - 23:00) Closing thoughts | 23m 02s | ||||||
| 2/18/26 | ![]() Burnout to Breakthrough: Better Choices for Busy Leaders | In this episode of Change Starts Here, host Dustin Odham is joined by Kory Kogon, FranklinCovey’s Global Practice Leader for Content Development and co-author of The 5 Choices: The Path to Extraordinary Productivity. Together, they address the mounting pressure on educators to "do it all" and the burnout that inevitably follows. Kory explains why the old "work 'til you drop" mentality is no longer sustainable in an age of constant digital distraction and generational shifts.Kory breaks down the framework of The 5 Choices, explaining how it complements the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by offering a practical system for decision, attention, and energy management. Listeners will learn how to identify their "extraordinary roles," avoid "accidental energy drainers" that demoralize teams, and why physical renewal is a biological necessity for brain function, not just a luxury. This conversation is a roadmap for high performers to move from feeling buried by the whirlwind to achieving meaningful results without sacrificing their well-being.Get your copy of The 5 Choices:https://www.amazon.com/Choices-Path-Extraordinary-Productivity/dp/1476711712/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1413483143&sr=1-2&keywords=the+five+choices+to+extraordinary+productivityHost: Dustin Odham, FranklinCovey EducationGuest: Kory Kogon, Co-author, The 5 Choices: The Path to Extraordinary ProductivityTimestamps: (00:00 - 02:07) Introduction and Context (02:07 - 04:39) Meet Kory Kogon (04:39 - 06:23) Rethinking Productivity (06:23 - 08:56) 5 Choices and 7 Habits (08:56 - 12:02) Decision Management (12:02 - 13:04) Attention Management (13:04 - 18:08) Real-World Impact Stories (18:08 - 22:56) Fuel Your Fire (22:56 - 28:50) Managing Overwhelm (28:50 - 35:14) Modeling Energy Leadership (35:14 - 37:15) Practical First Steps (37:15 - 40:04) 5 Choices and 4DX (40:04 - 42:17) Accidental Energy Drainers (42:17 - 43:15) Conclusion | 43m 18s | ||||||
| 2/10/26 | ![]() The Truth About Reflection — And Why It Often Fails | In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller tackle a practice that is ubiquitous in education yet often misunderstood: reflection. While educators and students are constantly asked to reflect, it frequently feels shallow, performative, or exhausting. Kim and Dr. Miller explore the neuroscience behind why reflection works, revealing that without it, experience simply hardens habits rather than creating learning.Listeners will learn the critical neurological distinction between reflection and rumination, and how leaders often unintentionally trigger the latter. The conversation highlights that reflection is not a passive review of the past, but an active state of inquiry that requires psychological safety to engage the prefrontal cortex. By shifting from "why" questions to "what" questions and treating reflection as a learned skill, leaders can turn this practice into a powerful engine for self-regulation and capacity building.Download the Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/CSH-Truth-reflection?x=fmnfWPHosts: Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)Timestamps: (00:00 - 00:55) Podcast intro and topic (00:55 - 02:44) The tension of reflection (02:44 - 04:23) Experience versus learning (04:23 - 05:15) The cycle of inquiry (05:15 - 07:25) Why reflection drives growth (07:25 - 09:53) Neuroscience of the brain (09:53 - 12:33) Reflection versus rumination (12:33 - 14:20) Common reflection misconceptions (14:20 - 15:41) Practical leadership strategies (15:41 - 18:05) Closing thoughts | 18m 07s | ||||||
| 2/3/26 | ![]() Treat Behavior as Feedback, Not Failure | In this episode of Change Starts Here, host Dustin Odham addresses the unique challenges of the "February slump", a time when fresh start energy has faded and end-of-year milestones are still out of sight. Dustin explores why behavior problems from both students and adults often spike during this period, arguing that these are rarely character issues but rather energy issues fueled by fatigue and disconnection.Listeners will learn three practical leadership moves to navigate this difficult stretch without burning out: regulating yourself before redirecting others, narrowing the focus to essential behaviors, and catching engagement before correcting behavior. By viewing behavior as feedback rather than failure, leaders can shift from reacting to responding, rebuilding trust and momentum when it is needed most.Host: Dustin OdhamTimestamps: (00:00 - 01:45) Introduction(01:45 - 02:49) Fatigue impacts behavior(02:49 - 03:50) Energy versus character issues(03:50 - 05:02) Behavior is information(05:02 - 06:05) Connection over consequences(06:05 - 06:39) Regulate yourself first(06:39 - 07:06) Narrow the focus(07:06 - 07:58) Catch engagement early(07:58 - 09:24) Leading from the middle(09:24 - 09:53) Outro | 9m 54s | ||||||
| 1/27/26 | ![]() What Truly Drives Motivation? | In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller tackle the dreaded "mid-year slump", that time when energy dips and motivation becomes scarce for both staff and students. Rather than pushing harder, they explore the neurobiology behind what actually drives us to take action. Dr. Miller breaks down the science of the "motivation switch" in the brain, the nucleus accumbens, and explains why choice, relevance, and connection are biological necessities, not just nice-to-haves.Listeners will discover why motivation is not a fixed personality trait but a response to environmental conditions. The conversation unpacks Self-Determination Theory and offers leaders practical strategies to shift their teams from compliance to contribution. By learning how to offer authentic choices and co-create paths forward, educators can reignite agency and engagement even during the toughest stretches of the school year.Download the Handout:https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/CSH_handout_S6E19?x=OcaUHVHosts:Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction: Mid-Year Slump 01:48 Neurobiology of Motivation 02:46 Visualizing Motivation Triggers 05:17 The Nucleus Accumbens 07:20 Autonomy and Choice 10:14 Self-Determination Theory 12:38 Biology Over Personality 15:24 Practice: Offering Meaningful Choice 17:37 Practice: Co-Creating Paths | 19m 38s | ||||||
| 1/20/26 | ![]() Why Trust Isn’t Soft—and Control Isn’t Working | What if the leadership practices that once kept schools running are now holding them back? In this episode of Change Starts Here, host Dustin Odham sits down with David Kasperson, co-author of the Wall Street Journal bestseller Trust & Inspire and Director of Speaking & Business Development at FranklinCovey, to challenge the deeply rooted belief that control drives results.Together, they explore why traditional, compliance-driven leadership is reaching its breaking point in today’s schools—and how shifting to a Trust & Inspire model can unlock the latent potential of educators and students alike. Kasperson reframes trust not as a “soft” idea, but as rocket fuel for innovation, engagement, and performance.Listeners will gain practical insights into the three stewardships of leadership—modeling, trusting, and inspiring—and learn how to rebuild trust, even after it’s been damaged. This conversation is a call to action for K–12 leaders ready to move beyond managing tasks and start leading people with belief, purpose, and stewardship.Get Your Copy of Trust & Inspire:https://store.leaderinme.com/products/trust-and-inspire-book-hardcover Host:Dustin Odham, Managing Director with FranklinCovey EducationGuest:David Kasperson, Co-author of Trust & Inspire and Director of Speaking & Business Development at FranklinCoveyTimestamps: (00:00 - 01:18) Episode introduction (01:18 - 03:04) David’s leadership journey (03:04 - 04:47) Why trust matters now (04:47 - 07:19) Measuring trust vs. engagement (07:19 - 09:11) Speed as a differentiator (09:11 - 11:07) Management vs. leadership paradigms (11:07 - 14:13) Moving beyond compliance (14:13 - 17:09) Barriers to trust (17:09 - 19:56) Tapping into inspiration (19:56 - 24:11) High expectations, not micromanagement (24:11 - 30:37) Steps to rebuild trust (30:37 - 36:23) Stewardship for the person (36:23 - 42:38) Love in the classroom (42:38 - 44:13) Leading through potential (44:13 - 46:05) Overcoming leadership frustration (46:05 - 50:00) Outro and resources | 50m 04s | ||||||
| 1/13/26 | ![]() Reimagining Family Involvement: From Barriers to Bridges | In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller explore the common "disconnect" between traditional school efforts and what actually drives student achievement. Dr. Miller shares insights from a deep dive into family engagement research, revealing that many widely accepted practices are more about compliance than connection. By shifting the focus from school-based events to "academic socialization," educators can unlock more powerful outcomes for their students. Listeners will learn how to identify and remove subtle barriers, such as scheduling conflicts and language gaps—that prevent families from engaging. The conversation highlights the transformative power of two-way communication and proactive, positive reach-outs. By moving away from visible but less effective gestures and toward building trust, educators can foster a partnership with families that significantly accelerates learning.Download the Handout, What Strengthens Family Engagement?:https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/fy26_csh_rc-handout_?x=hPII-q Hosts:Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)Timestamps: (00:00 - 00:42) Podcast intro (00:42 - 01:57) Research disconnects (01:57 - 04:28) Perceptions of engagement (04:28 - 06:27) Identifying engagement barriers (06:27 - 08:17) Changing educator paradigms (08:17 - 10:38) Redefining family involvement (10:38 - 12:21) Three engagement categories (12:21 - 14:07) Academic socialization impact (14:07 - 15:58) Building parent capacity (15:58 - 17:44) Power of two-way communication (17:44 - 21:36) Efficiency and effort tradeoffs (21:36 - 22:17) Closing thoughts | 22m 19s | ||||||
| 1/6/26 | ![]() Think Before You Sprint: Resetting the Right Way | While the calendar promises a fresh start, many educators feel the heavy weight of expectations before their energy has fully returned. Join host Dustin Odham as he tackles the unique tension of January leadership. This episode explores why pushing harder right now might be the wrong move and how treating this month as a true reset point can prevent burnout down the road.Dustin shares personal insights on why intensity without intention leads to exhaustion. He offers three critical questions to help leaders shift their paradigm from a "pressure cooker" mentality to one of clarity and trust. Listen in to discover how to honor capacity, define what truly matters, and lead with a renewed sense of purpose this semester.Host: Dustin OdhamTimestamps: (00:13 - 00:51) The reality of January pressure (00:51 - 01:25) Why December drains our tanks (01:25 - 02:30) Resetting before you sprint (02:30 - 03:02) Where burnout is revealed (03:02 - 03:58) Pressure cooker vs reset point (03:58 - 04:30) Your lens shapes leadership (04:31 - 04:58) Clarity builds trust (04:28 - 05:55) Intensity without intention (05:55 - 06:21) Clarity is the foundation (06:21 - 06:53) Best energy (06:54 - 07:25) How people feel (07:25 - 08:11) February and March are sprints | 8m 12s | ||||||
| 12/9/25 | ![]() Buried, Busy, and Breaking Through: Sean Covey on Schoolwide Change | In this powerful episode, Dustin sits down with Sean Covey, President of FranklinCovey Education, for a candid conversation about why so many schools today feel overwhelmed, overcommitted, and stuck in the whirlwind of competing priorities. Drawing from decades of global experience, and fresh insights from recent district visits, Sean describes what educators are experiencing firsthand: growing student needs, teacher burnout, increasing complexity, and constant pressure to improve everything at once.Tune in for practical insights and mindset shifts school and district leaders can use tomorrow, a roadmap for moving from overwhelmed and overcommitted to focused, empowered, and ready for meaningful change.Read Sean’s article Overwhelmed and Overcommitted: Why Schools Underperform and Struggle to Improve:https://www.leaderinme.org/blog/overwhelmed-and-overcommitted/ Host: Dustin OdhamGuest: Sean CoveyTimestamps: (00:00 - 00:14) Beyond academics (00:14 - 00:51) Show open (00:51 - 01:18) The focus problem (01:18 - 01:37) Welcome and setup (01:37 - 02:39) Why Leader in Me (26:37 - 27:13) What gives hope now (27:13 - 27:56) Students leading the way (27:56 - 28:50) Focus on the good (28:50 - 29:24) Principles work everywhere (29:24 - 29:52) Leader in Me Unplugged (29:52 - 31:04) Lessons at home (31:50 - 32:20) Love of the arts (32:55 - 33:24) Thanks and vision (33:24 - 34:10) Close and call to action | 34m 28s | ||||||
| 12/2/25 | ![]() Finding Joy in the Gap | December has a way of highlighting the gap between the year we envisioned and the one we’re actually living. In this reflective episode, Dustin Odham explores what it means to find joy in the gap—even when the work feels unfinished and the season feels heavy.If you’re an educator who needs a moment to breathe, reset, and see your impact with fresh eyes, this episode is for you. Listen now and follow Change Starts Here on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.Host: Dustin OdhamTimestamps: (00:00 - 00:13) Welcome (00:13 - 00:43) December’s reality check (00:43 - 01:14) Pause and reset (01:14 - 02:08) Naming the gap (02:08 - 02:35) See, do, get model (02:35 - 03:25) Check your paradigm (03:25 - 03:52) Joy in the middle, explained (03:52 - 04:20) A quiet thank you (04:20 - 04:46) Snapped back to what is (05:06 - 05:34) December’s rhythm (05:34 - 06:23) Where joy shows up (06:23 - 06:46) The gap does not define you (06:46 - 07:09) Share your moments (07:09 - 07:22) Close | 7m 23s | ||||||
| 11/26/25 | ![]() Retrain Your Brain: Finding the Good in Busy Times | In this energizing episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris explores how you can retrain your brain to move from constant stress to noticing daily bright spots. She explains the brain’s filtering system (your RAS) in simple language and connects it to practical choices educators can make to see more of what’s working.You’ll hear encouraging data showing that schools can shift momentum—even in the busiest seasons—and walk away with two quick routines that make the good more visible, without adding anything to your to-do list.Real change comes from small, repeatable choices that naturally fit into the rhythm of your day and gradually reshape what you notice. Tune in to discover how these simple shifts can boost clarity and optimism in your school, and share this episode with a colleague who could use a lift.Downloadable resources:https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_epis?x=HmJ7qQHost: Kim Yaris, M.Ed.Timestamps: (00:00 - 00:53) Intro(00:53 - 01:23) Why our focus narrows (01:23 - 04:20) Meet the RAS (03:52 - 04:46) Retune what you notice (04:46 - 05:35) Why this matters now (05:35 - 07:32) Student ratings rise (07:32 - 08:11) Engagement hits records (08:11 - 09:35) Encouragement and hope (09:35 - 10:32) Strategy 1, daily cue (10:32 - 11:17) Strategy 2, end question (11:17 - 11:55) Two big takeaways (11:55 - 12:05) Outro | 12m 14s | ||||||
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